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MrScorpio

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28. We're not living in any of those other countries

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:57 AM

Dec 2015

We can only speak to our own.

And to be blind to many of the general ills of this country, part of which is demonstrated by our penchant for gunning ourselves to death, is quite a short sighted thing to do.

America pretty much has always been a sick place to live in many ways, from the land that was stolen, to racism, inequality and slavery, to wars we've waged during our entire history as a country, to guns flooding the streets... We're not as happy go lucky as we delude ourselves to be.

We've got a lot of problems in this country and the utter unwillingness to do anything about most of them until it's too late.

Personally, I think the reason is that we behave like a nation of spoiled, entitled brats.

With all the treasure and luck we have in this country, we squander it and slaughter ourselves willy-nilly, not to mention the way we've slaughtered others around the world. We're the Merchants of Death, begging for global adoration and fear.

Frankly, I've been sick of this shit for decades.

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Listening to the GOPers, they're all talking as if Farook's radicalization is like some alien curse [View all] MrScorpio Dec 2015 OP

They want to say radicalization is bad, and they have no problem attacking where radicals live, but ck4829 Dec 2015 #1

There is an old saying "Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb" Maeve Dec 2015 #34

Not what that phrase means, though muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #40

That's a limited version of how it's been used in the US Maeve Dec 2015 #55

+1 treestar Dec 2015 #57

Bingo! nt MrScorpio Dec 2015 #79

It's quite a toxic recipe- Snarkoleptic Dec 2015 #2

this country has a sick society?? Blame the victim.. Yorktown Dec 2015 #3

WTF?! hobbit709 Dec 2015 #5

We're a country that has been at war all but 15 years of our existence. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #6

Are you talking of the US or Europe? colonialist exploitative foreign policy? Yorktown Dec 2015 #10

You can begin with the U.S.'s deposition of Mossadegh in Iran in 1953, bullwinkle428 Dec 2015 #14

Not very convincing. Risk of Communism raised by Churchill. Yorktown Dec 2015 #15

Churchill said ArtiChoke Dec 2015 #43

Is potato your favorite color? Yorktown Dec 2015 #46

Um... ArtiChoke Dec 2015 #67

No, I just quoted wiki on the topic Yorktown Dec 2015 #69

No argument here, but it's too late to unring that bell. Oneironaut Dec 2015 #62

. tk2kewl Dec 2015 #8

.. Yorktown Dec 2015 #11

I have no idea what you're talking about MrScorpio Dec 2015 #12

I am talking about one sentence of yours: " this country has a sick society" Yorktown Dec 2015 #16

San Bernadino wasn't an isolated incident MrScorpio Dec 2015 #20

Except that radical Islam is the same in Paris, Nigeria or San Bernardino Yorktown Dec 2015 #21

Did you bother reading the entire OP? MrScorpio Dec 2015 #22

Well, I also disagree with the rest of the post, but that's another point Yorktown Dec 2015 #24

The guy was born and raised in America, he is an American. Why do you avoid the facts? Rex Dec 2015 #27

Conditioning. "Terrorists" are set up in a way that they are supposed to be foreign, other ck4829 Dec 2015 #29

Well, in a discourse, if there is an odd element sticking out, that causes reactions Yorktown Dec 2015 #30

that one conveniently has all the NRA talking points Skittles Dec 2015 #80

We're not living in any of those other countries MrScorpio Dec 2015 #28

I suppose you never stayed overseas much Yorktown Dec 2015 #31

I lived two years in Korea and four years in Europe... MrScorpio Dec 2015 #33

Democracies. Yorktown Dec 2015 #36

The point being that this country is all we Americans have... MrScorpio Dec 2015 #38

I must disagree here too, I'm afraid Yorktown Dec 2015 #41

Frankly, I don't know how could begin to address such a level of na�vet�. MrScorpio Dec 2015 #45

I prefer FDR, Keynes, JFK, Clinton and Obama. Yorktown Dec 2015 #47

I'm wondering, dude, how old are you? MrScorpio Dec 2015 #48

A difference of opinion isn't a sign of immaturity Yorktown Dec 2015 #49

Embarrassed? MrScorpio Dec 2015 #52

Well, we agree on one thing: never stop asking questions Yorktown Dec 2015 #54

I have one last thing for you to consider... MrScorpio Dec 2015 #58

I disagree with many of your statements here #58 Yorktown Dec 2015 #63

You're right and everyone else is wrong... Yeah, I get that. MrScorpio Dec 2015 #66

No, no, no, the US is sick and I am wrong Yorktown Dec 2015 #68

You're really defensive about this, aren't you? MrScorpio Dec 2015 #71

I already mentioned the US is far from perfect Yorktown Dec 2015 #72

I also mentioned before that sick is a relative term here, only in regards to ourselves. MrScorpio Dec 2015 #74

Well, if you use words as they suit you, fine. Yorktown Dec 2015 #75

Healthier society than European and Asian democracies? morningfog Dec 2015 #78

So would we be a "sick society" if we were talking about Columbine, Littleton, Atlanta bombings, A Simple Game Dec 2015 #35

Are letter bombs, anthrax letters a frequent occurence in the US? Yorktown Dec 2015 #37

People dying from riots and car fires are a possibility not the intent. But when A Simple Game Dec 2015 #70

I answered in #72 Yorktown Dec 2015 #73

Their societies may be sick too treestar Dec 2015 #64

So the guy that tried to blow up the PP building, you just going to avoid Rex Dec 2015 #26

Try to ask questions when you do not know someone and their opinions. Yorktown Dec 2015 #32

You should too, your replies to the OP make you now sound completely hypocritical. Rex Dec 2015 #39

I challenge you to back that word hypocritical Yorktown Dec 2015 #42

Why do you forget the radicalized Christians in this country? Where do they come from? KittyWampus Dec 2015 #44

I can prove to you I bash equally all religions in one link Yorktown Dec 2015 #50

Not all shooters are Muslims treestar Dec 2015 #59

Poverty. The genesis of radicalism, extremism and crime. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #60

The thing I'm notibing this morning, on Morning Joke, is the desperation to blame Obama. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #4

^^^this^^^ Freddie Dec 2015 #7

I can dig it. nt MrScorpio Dec 2015 #9

Blaming Obama is for this is pure demagoguery Yorktown Dec 2015 #13

They found 12 pipe bombs. He was planning something far worse, but he fucked up. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #18

Cheering at the notion that "all Muslims should be registered" is radicalization. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #17

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #23

Sweet jesus. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #25

I'm wondering who Obama could have bombed to prevent this world wide wally Dec 2015 #19

I never hear the right talk radicalization when it's a white Christian killing spree. Tommy2Tone Dec 2015 #51

Their silence speaks volumes. nt MrScorpio Dec 2015 #53

Very good treestar Dec 2015 #56

That's a 180 in attitude from what you posted on Sunday LittleBlue Dec 2015 #61

In a specific sense, you're right. MrScorpio Dec 2015 #65

Exactly melman Dec 2015 #81

Would Dr. Tiller be dead if not for a radicalized Christian with a gun? valerief Dec 2015 #76

Damn Skippy! nt MrScorpio Dec 2015 #77

ONE group of radicals has the caliphate angle going for them. Waiting For Everyman Dec 2015 #82

Great post melman Dec 2015 #83

Well, for one thing, the chances of Daesh establishing itself in this country� MrScorpio Dec 2015 #84