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beevul

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23. "Rate" maps are misleading.

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 02:11 PM

Dec 2015

Low population plays as much part in higher rates, as high population does in hiding huge numbers of gun deaths in comfortably misleading rates.

See CA and AK for examples.

Or just look at a map of actual gun violence, where it happens:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172149251

It isn't so simple...

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Notice anything? [View all] Lochloosa Dec 2015 OP

A coincidence? world wide wally Dec 2015 #1

I expected PA to be higher. femmocrat Dec 2015 #2

Right wingers like to cite Chicago treestar Dec 2015 #3

The San Bernardino shooting, Sandy Hook and Aurora theater shooting all happened in blue states? Brickbat Dec 2015 #4

I don't think you're supposed to notice that. nt ladyVet Dec 2015 #22

Splashy, but tiny points of sensationalism in a nation awash in gun deaths. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #26

And, btw, some of those 'blue' states really aren't. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #29

Then I guess the map really has no meaning GummyBearz Dec 2015 #35

That some of the poorest states have the highest amount of gun violence? Rex Dec 2015 #5

I wonder if that's due to suicides. pintobean Dec 2015 #6

That is a good point, many of these deaths are suicides Rex Dec 2015 #7

Two thirds is what I've seen referenced. pintobean Dec 2015 #9

Well I am not buying what is being sold either. Rex Dec 2015 #12

Those Hawaiians need to start packing, gosh darnit!!! steve2470 Dec 2015 #8

I went on vacation to Hawaii once. jeff47 Dec 2015 #11

I hate to help the gun nuts out but this seems to show firearm deaths, not just shootings. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2015 #10

In my state 2naSalit Dec 2015 #19

New York ranks third after Hawaii and Massachusetts in lowest number KansDem Dec 2015 #13

Make it too expensive to live in NYC and the poor go elsewhere! Lucky Luciano Dec 2015 #17

Wow. MynameisBlarney Dec 2015 #14

Here is a list with the actual number of murders per state Lurks Often Dec 2015 #15

Cherry picking stats homegirl Dec 2015 #16

The OP cherry picked the stats too Lurks Often Dec 2015 #20

WTF are you talking about? Major Nikon Dec 2015 #36

Yawn Lurks Often Dec 2015 #39

Bullshit Major Nikon Dec 2015 #41

What's bullshit is blaming an object instead doing something about the underlying causes Lurks Often Dec 2015 #42

Wow! A clever repackaging of the tired old "guns don't kill people" line Major Nikon Dec 2015 #43

Is that all you can manage? Lurks Often Dec 2015 #44

You stole my line! Major Nikon Dec 2015 #45

So we should do nothing? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #18

K&R nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #21

"Rate" maps are misleading. beevul Dec 2015 #23

My lord, SC is just about covered with purple circles. raccoon Dec 2015 #24

Looks about right. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #27

Maps like that are far more misleading Major Nikon Dec 2015 #37

To those not interested in looking at objective facts perhaps. beevul Dec 2015 #46

Sure, about as objective as looking at a map of the number of anal warts Major Nikon Dec 2015 #47

Yes: People in GOP-dominated states commit suicide a lot. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #25

For one thing, Arkansas more gun deaths than Vermont. merrily Dec 2015 #28

Vermont has the least restrictive gun laws in the country. n/t meaculpa2011 Dec 2015 #31

Yet far fewer gun deaths than Arkansas. I'm not getting your point? merrily Dec 2015 #32

No point. Just an observation. n/t meaculpa2011 Dec 2015 #34

There were 2,300 murders in New York City... meaculpa2011 Dec 2015 #30

Yeah notice America gone nuts. lonestarnot Dec 2015 #33

missing are shootings where the victim survives. I think many more survive. Sunlei Dec 2015 #38

Ok. so rethugs will just off themselves faster kydo Dec 2015 #40