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Nuclear Unicorn

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95. Or maybe people engage in looney conspiracy theories about evil cabals and world domination

Tue May 29, 2012, 06:12 PM

May 2012

General Dynamics isn't forcing Obama to sign deployment orders. Either Obama is a hostage, a charlatan or a CinC doing his best.

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If you won't say "hero" what will you say? [View all] Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 OP

Rinse and repeat. GeorgeGist May 2012 #1

Did someone train you to say that? Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #3

One doesn't have to be trained to recognize right-wing nonsense. nt TBF May 2012 #7

Except it isn't RW nonsense. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #10

Well I guess I part ways with our President on this topic - TBF May 2012 #18

that's not a fact, it's an opinion. cali May 2012 #49

Uggh Fascism 101 worship the military CBGLuthier May 2012 #2

So you send men and women to suffer the worst of what humanity can produce Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #4

Kind of a catch-22, isn't it? sadbear May 2012 #5

excellent Bacchus4.0 May 2012 #6

error: Kali May 2012 #9

I read that the SEALs who took down Bin Laden are paid less than Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #11

Navy SEAL pay is comparable to the average teacher salary. Brickbat May 2012 #20

Sorry, as much as I admire teachers, SEALs endure more than they're paid for. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #28

Comparing the two has little use. Brickbat May 2012 #40

I made the point because I was told Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #78

"So you send men and women to suffer the worst of what humanity can produce" white_wolf May 2012 #26

Now THAT'S some popagandist nonsense. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #29

There isn't a conspiracy. white_wolf May 2012 #30

Since Obame is CinC, let's translate what you just said. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #36

Yes, Obama represents the rich. white_wolf May 2012 #37

I don't think there is a monolithic group called "the rich" deutsey May 2012 #46

You're right. "The rich" is far too simplistic. white_wolf May 2012 #50

Agreed n/t deutsey May 2012 #53

Why are you trying to hide behind Obama here? Marr May 2012 #75

Because it's laughable on its face Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #76

"Nobody tells him where and when US troops go to fight" No they don't, though I believe Congress is Puregonzo1188 May 2012 #81

No one is saying he has a special red Bat Phone connection to Marr May 2012 #86

I'm not looking at any action in South America in the past century. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #88

You think our motivations in the middle east are *less* economic than Marr May 2012 #92

Essentially you are because you imply that electing Obama transformed the dynamics of the MIC TheKentuckian May 2012 #93

Or maybe people engage in looney conspiracy theories about evil cabals and world domination Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #95

Or caught up in a system much larger than himself, perhaps? deutsey May 2012 #99

Those "wars". sendero May 2012 #110

Those many wars since WWII have done more than just drain the treasury. baldguy May 2012 #111

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Oh insults. Yeah, that's real mature. white_wolf May 2012 #41

Sent off for what? Arugula Latte May 2012 #45

No. YOU send men and women to suffer the worst of what humanity can produce. Zorra May 2012 #54

You pay taxes? sarge43 May 2012 #63

No. If you want it, you own it. Zorra May 2012 #102

Did you vote for Obama? Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #64

Yeah. Because I figured he'd cause less death and destruction than the only other alternative. nt Zorra May 2012 #103

This is where you are missing everyone's points. It's not a necessary evil since neither the Iraq Puregonzo1188 May 2012 #80

Wow! What NU said! nt Skip Intro May 2012 #113

"I view them as a necessary evil not an inviolate good." Taverner May 2012 #77

I have to agree with you - lynne May 2012 #8

What do we call anyone who gets up every day and does his/her job? Brickbat May 2012 #12

I understand that. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #21

If doing someone's job is all it takes to get called a hero, we need to seriously examine the word. Brickbat May 2012 #52

Excellent #s 12 & 52. I was going to say, One-who -performs- normal-civic- duties. n/t UTUSN May 2012 #69

couldn't have said it better myself . . . and i tried! eom ellenfl May 2012 #31

"To admire singular people for what they have done, however, is only human." Bluerthanblue May 2012 #43

Agree 100% NU. THose who are willing to sacrifice should be shown appreciation. Swamp Lover May 2012 #13

If we stopped calling everyone who joins the military a hero, more people might stop & think before Arugula Latte May 2012 #47

You assume that those who serve are stupid, or have not considered their decision. Swamp Lover May 2012 #58

Excellent point sarisataka May 2012 #61

A decent education in history Rittermeister May 2012 #89

Why do you, or anyone question why someone says anything that doesn't effect you personally? dadchef May 2012 #105

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together Arugula Latte May 2012 #106

People can appreciate and acknowledge service without calling them heroes. Brickbat May 2012 #59

our brave and selfless men and women? eom ellenfl May 2012 #14

Long periods of extreme stress does tend to make us band together like nothing else, Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #15

This is a powerful thought. Brickbat May 2012 #16

Thank you, NU bigtree May 2012 #17

I am a pacifist. I don't believe in heroes that carry guns. Th1onein May 2012 #19

In our family, all but two served in the military Greybnk48 May 2012 #22

I won't say "hero"... Spider Jerusalem May 2012 #23

especially when the rah rah shit is put out as some kind of litmus test Kali May 2012 #24

Another excellent point: "Service alone does not make them heroes." Brickbat May 2012 #42

well said paulk May 2012 #51

You summed it up nicely. RedCappedBandit May 2012 #87

Why do you assume they are sent war to Arctic Dave May 2012 #25

How about we stop using the word to descibe people we don't know anything about? Orsino May 2012 #27

I know. I married one. And back when we were dating he was still enlisted. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #34

Brave, honorable, admirable are all sufficiently proper terms.... Tommy_Carcetti May 2012 #32

It's a lot easier to say hero than victim of the poverty draft doing their best to get by LeftyMom May 2012 #33

Chew on this: RC May 2012 #35

Soldier? Armed Services Member? cali May 2012 #38

Answer and a question sarisataka May 2012 #67

It's just stupid. Do people with chronic illnesses count? cali May 2012 #79

The matter is choice sarisataka May 2012 #84

OK. How about people who choose to be part of an NGO? Or teach in the inner city cali May 2012 #85

Those I respect as well sarisataka May 2012 #96

You haven't been to the Mexican border or any local police department lately, have you? Comrade Grumpy May 2012 #91

Not in a few years sarisataka May 2012 #100

probably better to say absolutely nothing hfojvt May 2012 #44

Soldier, sailor, airman, marine, coastguardman, depending. sarge43 May 2012 #48

+1 TroglodyteScholar May 2012 #57

Thanks sarge43 May 2012 #68

+1,000,000 Johnny Rico May 2012 #55

I've always found "soldier," "marine," "airman," and "sailor" to be adequate. TroglodyteScholar May 2012 #56

"Employees." nt daaron May 2012 #60

And any military member you call hero sarisataka May 2012 #62

Cannon fodder for the ambitions of politicians. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #65

it's not as though "anything less" than hero is an insult or degrading or anything fishwax May 2012 #66

What's wrong with "GI" kentuck May 2012 #70

Some are "heroes" all are "brave".... soccer1 May 2012 #71

Noble... cynatnite May 2012 #72

Can we honor the veteran without glorifying the war? LiberalAndProud May 2012 #73

I find it amusing that many of the same people who complain about kids all getting trophies Marr May 2012 #74

A few are heroes. Most are just working stiffs doing their jobs. Bake May 2012 #82

I will when it is appropriate and that is based on what I know which is often not very much. jp11 May 2012 #83

Hero Angelshare1 May 2012 #90

Yet, I feel more like a fool than anything. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #94

When I fear to speak, I remember this sarisataka May 2012 #98

Willing to risk all ... but again, the question is, for what? Arugula Latte May 2012 #108

Allow me sarisataka May 2012 #114

Pray tell, Arugula Latte May 2012 #116

there is nothing heroic about killing innocent people quinnox May 2012 #97

Someone defended that guy here? Wow I guess I missed that. cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #101

yup quinnox May 2012 #104

I wonder which American hero did this? Arugula Latte May 2012 #107

Somehow I think that soldiers, rather than being SomethingFishy May 2012 #109

I have no problem saying hero for our militiary men and women, fallen or not. Skip Intro May 2012 #112

survivors ManyShadesOf May 2012 #115