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Straw Man

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51. I think it's you who doesn't understand.

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 06:38 PM

Dec 2015

I want to know if the gun was originally bought in one of those states that doesn't require a background check. I absolutely would find that relevant.

Why?

The shooter was a California resident. He could not legally buy a gun without a background check, either inside or outside California. We have established that according to Federal and California law, the shooter either (a) had a background check or (b) acquired the guns illegally. I don't understand your fixation on the hypothetical straw purchaser and whether he had a background check. He could very well have passed one -- that's what straw purchasers do.

If I'm not understanding you, it's because you're not explaining yourself. How is the status of the original purchaser relevant? Please be specific.

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No, we don't. Straw Man Dec 2015 #45

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