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24. It's a pretty consistent rule that unskilled bomb makers will make piss poor bombs

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 07:35 PM

Dec 2015

that fail to go off during their mass shootings. This happened in Columbine, where had the bombs actually gone off, it would have been far, far worse. It happened in at least one other instance, and it happened on Wednesday afternoon: their bombs were shit.

I wouldn't pretend to know what happens in cases like this when the shooting starts, but I think it's also very difficult to imagine what people without training will do when 150 or so people panic at the shooting. The terrorists in Paris had some clear military training: they covered each other while reloading, and were apparently good shots. That again is hard for the untrained, as you well know as an Army veteran. As it stands, these two shitheads managed to hit 31 people, killing about half. It's not Bataclan accuracy, but it's also not that low, given the circumstances. I'm not sure they would have done better at a mall or movie theater.

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I admit--I wasn't very accurate on my original speculation. Allow me to try again. [View all] trumad Dec 2015 OP

I'm leaning towards the altercation at the party SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2015 #1

They rented the SUV a few days before. TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #2

I consider it the result of a country with more guns than people. randys1 Dec 2015 #5

Only dummies think guns make people want to kill others. pipoman Dec 2015 #7

I didnt say that, but are you calling me a dummie? randys1 Dec 2015 #8

Only if you believe guns cause people to want to kill others... pipoman Dec 2015 #10

I didnt say that and yes you are calling me a dummie randys1 Dec 2015 #11

Let's try my new ignore policy. trumad Dec 2015 #13

My heart is broken... pipoman Dec 2015 #17

I predict peeks. pintobean Dec 2015 #27

There are plenty of people I disagree with on forums...it's one reason I like them.. pipoman Dec 2015 #30

Well yeah, guns don't make people want to kill others. They give them the opportunity to. Rex Dec 2015 #37

There are many contributions to the problem pipoman Dec 2015 #39

Terrorist attack. hrmjustin Dec 2015 #3

still full of fail Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #4

No I am not... trumad Dec 2015 #19

They obviously planned to carry out additional attacks, but I think this was planned Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #35

Yup. You've been right on this. pintobean Dec 2015 #21

I agree mostly, except for the going home to get his wife part. He was said to have returned about ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2015 #6

They left the house together first thing in the morning B2G Dec 2015 #16

At first reports I thought this was a postal event GusBob Dec 2015 #9

And destroying all their electronics the day before alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #15

You may be 100 percent correct. trumad Dec 2015 #22

It's a pretty consistent rule that unskilled bomb makers will make piss poor bombs alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #24

agreed. Additionally, I think they planned to get out alive so didn't stick around to kill more magical thyme Dec 2015 #38

They didn't drop the kid off anywhere B2G Dec 2015 #18

The reports I read said the left the kid with his mom earlier in the day GusBob Dec 2015 #23

According to her lawyer, she lived there. B2G Dec 2015 #26

Yes right GusBob Dec 2015 #28

I think he was accumulating his arsenal malaise Dec 2015 #12

i think it was more personal but still had to do with him being islamic extremist JI7 Dec 2015 #14

Both in that the religious extremists rockfordfile Dec 2015 #20

I agree Generic Other Dec 2015 #25

You might find these tweets from the NYT foreign affairs reporter interesting. octoberlib Dec 2015 #29

Americans radicalized by the obnoxious stupidity and ignorance of fellow Americans. sanatanadharma Dec 2015 #31

Makes me wonder about the incident at the party before 2naSalit Dec 2015 #32

They were planning a huge Jihadist attack, that is obvious. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #33

I think you are still inaccurate. Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #34

I agree with the sequence idea but the tip to go to the Redlands house came from a coworker flamingdem Dec 2015 #40

The ID of the rented vehicle would probably have allowed the police to throw up a cordon Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #42

Dunno the entire media circus had me bewildered and then there is the baby. Rex Dec 2015 #36

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #41