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maxsolomon

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24. blaming the symptom for the disease

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:18 PM

Dec 2015

anguished internet calls for "bans" aren't putting bullets into bodies. firearms are. gun owners, legal or illegal, are.

Obama isn't calling for a "ban", yet that's what gun "enthusiasts" are hearing him say, aided by the propaganda of the NRA et al. they'll continue to hear Hillary say it when she's in charge.

getting gun n00bs to stop saying "get rid of guns" won't stop gun owners from hearing them say it. if necessary, they'll go into the wayback machine and pull out posts from 2000. whatever it takes to niggle change to death.

the 1st clause of the 2nd doesn't disallow stringent regulation, and denying certain "arms" to the public is already an established precedent. so I agree, let's stringently regulate.

gun owners need to tell us where to start. twice yearly militia training weekends with continued possession contingent on passing? onerous federal bullet taxation?

I joke because I have nothing left...

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we need to put this gun issue to bed [View all] lancer78 Dec 2015 OP

What needs to happen is an amendment to the Constitution that states you have a right to bear arms saturnsring Dec 2015 #1

Those who support gun bans lancer78 Dec 2015 #4

while im all for bans that isnt what i said - the 2a need to be removed from the constitution saturnsring Dec 2015 #6

Well then, I suggest that you get crackin" and petition the Congress to GGJohn Dec 2015 #9

no we do not have the votes yet saturnsring Dec 2015 #10

And you never will. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #13

Please.......stop. nt clarice Dec 2015 #11

sorry but people keep replying saturnsring Dec 2015 #12

no, I meant stop embarrassing yourself. nt clarice Dec 2015 #17

i dont feel that i am .. eom saturnsring Dec 2015 #18

Well, you are. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #21

well that's too bad saturnsring Dec 2015 #22

Don't let the gun nuts bully you into silence. That's letting their lobby win. Electric Monk Dec 2015 #27

they dont and they wont ... thanks saturnsring Dec 2015 #28

We didn't take care of things decades ago with regards bkkyosemite Dec 2015 #2

You are agreeing with me then lancer78 Dec 2015 #3

If you agree that military style weapons are not bkkyosemite Dec 2015 #5

I own a couple AR's and I can tell you that they are not military style weapons. Waldorf Dec 2015 #14

I think the whole gun issue will require elias49 Dec 2015 #7

Call them out over and over again Gunners are bad for society sanatanadharma Dec 2015 #25

Who is demanding a gun ban? yardwork Dec 2015 #8

Plenty right here on this board, GGJohn Dec 2015 #15

Well, anonymous posters are anonymous. yardwork Dec 2015 #29

Not even the Brady Campaign, grntuscarora Dec 2015 #19

Why does the Constitution have to give you upaloopa Dec 2015 #16

Why does the Constitution have to give you a right to buy a consumer item? branford Dec 2015 #34

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, you might have a hifiguy Dec 2015 #20

Bullshit... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2015 #23

I disagree lancer78 Dec 2015 #30

It would really help efforts to counteract the NRA opposition to UBC's branford Dec 2015 #35

blaming the symptom for the disease maxsolomon Dec 2015 #24

I challenge those who wants no bans on guns, ammo, etc to come to the table Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #26

the solution does not lancer78 Dec 2015 #31

Without the rapid fire weapon used in Sandy Hook, there would not have been as many shots fired in a Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #32

we need to figure lancer78 Dec 2015 #33