General Discussion

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

68. The ammount of ammo is really not that large

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:41 PM

Dec 2015

I can go to Wallmart and buy that ammo tonight. I am not jocking, sadly I am being very factual.

We are talking 4,100 .223 ammo
2000 for the 9mm
and a smattering of other ammo

I would not do it, but this is a weekend of shooting fun for some of my back country neighbors, and it would not raise an eyebrow if one or two went to the sporting goods store and bought it. Some of my urban neighbors would also fire this much at the range in a weekend.

The two guns (the AR 15s) were bought by people who could legally buy them three years ago. At least one has already been interviewed by the ATF and let go since there was no problem. The weapons were legally transferred (why we also need a private background check), but there was no straw purchase here.

And the weapons collection... is not that unusual either.

Perhaps since I know gun owners... this really does not surprise me much.

Now here is the problem with this statement... well there are many problems with that statement... and they go to the heart of the number of things that need to be done where me or you, or joe, or anybody else going to the sporting goods store and plopping the credit card and buying brick after brick of ammo does not raise any eyebrows.

The private transfer loophole would not have stopped this by the way. A limit on how much ammo you can buy, which may have a good chance of making through the initiative process right now, would only slow it down.

Oh and how much this would run? Well lets see... if they went for the cheap ammo, 500 rounds can be had for $140 bucks, and 1000 rounds of 9 mm for $224... so it would not even necessarily break the bank.

Really the amount of ammo is not that impressive. We have had home fires where the fire department stands back because literally they are dealing with not a few thousand rounds, but tens of thousands of rounds. And that does not raise an eye either.

Here, one example.

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/general-news/20130621/exploding-ammo-on-zayante-drive-keeps-firefighters-from-blaze

So the problem is that none of this raises an eyebrow.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

111 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

She Gave A False Address On Her Visa [View all] KittyWampus Dec 2015 OP

Whoa. babylonsister Dec 2015 #1

even if it was an 'innocent' mistake (number improperly written) KittyWampus Dec 2015 #3

This is what happens when you have attrition, Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #63

I think that's a damn fine idea. nt babylonsister Dec 2015 #64

And this is why HRC is correct to call for a careful look into the VISA program. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #97

so much for our screening process saturnsring Dec 2015 #2

Wrong randys1 Dec 2015 #4

oh the screening process didnt fail here? saturnsring Dec 2015 #6

Does this inspire confidence in you? KittyWampus Dec 2015 #7

Did you believe the screening process for refugees and what this person went thru randys1 Dec 2015 #8

I think the screening process for ANYONE should be sufficient that a false address KittyWampus Dec 2015 #11

I think most Brown people are harmless and I am not that worried about it. randys1 Dec 2015 #12

"most brown people"??? cwydro Dec 2015 #26

The fear here seems to be focused on Brown people, so I was merely pointing randys1 Dec 2015 #34

"Most?" SoCalMusicLover Dec 2015 #27

Wow. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #33

Tone deaf, OK, if wanting to help refugees is tone deaf, then I am randys1 Dec 2015 #35

I'm for good, strict, effective screening....for visa and the refugees. NOT keeping people out ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #42

Yeah, so much better to think shootings happen kcr Dec 2015 #108

IMHO the problem is she LiberalElite Dec 2015 #51

How do you check out a ficticious address? 1939 Dec 2015 #88

So if a white person gave a false address I should worry Yupster Dec 2015 #87

It's worse B2G Dec 2015 #13

If they aren't even verifying information given on an application LittleBlue Dec 2015 #16

So you are saying that if 2 out of 20,000 refugees are killers, say no to all? randys1 Dec 2015 #18

they also made pipe bombs. KittyWampus Dec 2015 #19

So if 2 out of 20,000 are killers, you say no to all 20,000? randys1 Dec 2015 #20

where do you get off insinuating that I "say no to all 20,000"? KittyWampus Dec 2015 #22

Someone here was, if not you then I apologize randys1 Dec 2015 #24

Like The Belgium/France Border? SoCalMusicLover Dec 2015 #29

If you think borders are "stupid," TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #47

It's funny about Canada ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #48

LOL Other countries are just like us. TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #49

Borders allow governments to regulate immigration davidpdx Dec 2015 #98

Policy should be thought out 6chars Dec 2015 #78

If they are lying on their visa applications LittleBlue Dec 2015 #43

13% of Syrian refugees have an OK opinion of ISIS (poll) Yorktown Dec 2015 #81

So does that put you in the camp of opposing Syrian refugees? philosslayer Dec 2015 #93

Yes Yorktown Dec 2015 #95

Results of your Jury Service DeadLetterOffice Dec 2015 #96

Thanks. I am amazed people alert without even asking info about the source Yorktown Dec 2015 #100

I'm amazed that posts like yours are supported in any way on DU kcr Dec 2015 #109

I am amazed by your comment Yorktown Dec 2015 #110

The great part about this argument is that people make the EXACT same argument about guns. hughee99 Dec 2015 #82

I have an idea for a conversation between your side and mine and it is based randys1 Dec 2015 #83

What? hughee99 Dec 2015 #84

So getting rid of semi auto weapons and kits that make weapons rapid fire etc puts your life at risk randys1 Dec 2015 #86

Huh? hughee99 Dec 2015 #89

Why do we need to allow the ownership of semi auto weapons that can kill many people in randys1 Dec 2015 #90

By that same logic, why do we need to allow refugees hughee99 Dec 2015 #91

K & R mog75 Dec 2015 #71

not at all but it isnt surprising saturnsring Dec 2015 #40

Exactly, GGJohn Dec 2015 #14

Even our signatures look alike. LOL randys1 Dec 2015 #17

Here you go. GGJohn Dec 2015 #25

Excellent. He was SCREWED out of a 2nd term, too randys1 Dec 2015 #28

Great minds think alike. GGJohn Dec 2015 #30

Forgot your sarcasm sign yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #61

You know the RW will be all over this AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #31

There's always going to be bureaucratic loopholes to exploit... Blue_Tires Dec 2015 #38

yep 840high Dec 2015 #44

Well this is going to be interesting. B2G Dec 2015 #5

Are these the same people screening the Syrian immigrants? LittleBlue Dec 2015 #9

If they were atreides1 Dec 2015 #52

It's a very different process. uppityperson Dec 2015 #55

How so? Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #74

She may have been working in Saudi Arabia, and since she was not a Saud LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #10

Yes, it could easily have been a miswritten number, a poorly remembered address KittyWampus Dec 2015 #15

I think we will have to wait until the investigations are complete to find LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #21

Just read this. proverbialwisdom Dec 2015 #37

Interesting, so really she was from SA. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #46

First photo of her you may want to add to thread title GusBob Dec 2015 #23

A vetting success story. n/t cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #32

Yet we are supposed to have confidence that the government can weed out terrorists in the refugees? davidn3600 Dec 2015 #36

I don't. 840high Dec 2015 #45

Refugee and spousal are very different processes but different groups uppityperson Dec 2015 #56

How so? Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #75

Here you go uppityperson Dec 2015 #76

K & R mog75 Dec 2015 #73

Looks around...is this still Democratic Underground? Fawke Em Dec 2015 #39

Don't Be So Open-Minded That Your Brains Fall Out. GeorgeGist Dec 2015 #58

What so many here fail to notice 2naSalit Dec 2015 #41

THANK YOU uppityperson Dec 2015 #57

First thing that 2naSalit Dec 2015 #60

When the crazy hits the fan even liberals would throw out the baby with the bath water. Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #77

That's the scary part... 2naSalit Dec 2015 #79

I hardly think that leftynyc Dec 2015 #85

Hey, I'm also a drunken Irishman... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #107

We need a ban on immigrants bigwillq Dec 2015 #50

Not really shocked by this knowing the Middle East... Street Addresses are a rather novel JCMach1 Dec 2015 #53

The same for rural areas of Latin America nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #54

precisely Nadin... JCMach1 Dec 2015 #59

I did read she was pre-screened already and given the thumbs up to come into this country. Rex Dec 2015 #66

The ammount of ammo is really not that large nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #68

I was thinking more the military style firearms than the ammo. Rex Dec 2015 #69

Armor Piercing, you read the same blog entry soembody else showed me, must have nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #70

Forget about addresses... DHS is a clusterfrak when it come to immigration JCMach1 Dec 2015 #111

So what the Qatar comment a slip of the tongue by a news reporter? Rex Dec 2015 #67

Yes, it was nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #72

Yes treestar Dec 2015 #105

If she'd spent 25 years in Saudi Arabia, that's where most of the background check effort goes Recursion Dec 2015 #62

Wait.. She lived 25 years in Saudi Arabia? darkangel218 Dec 2015 #104

Well now... I asked how she got by security. But I thought she was pre-screened by the FBI? Rex Dec 2015 #65

If we had to check every single address, the system would completely bog down. alarimer Dec 2015 #80

Breaking News: Sissyk Dec 2015 #92

Surprise surprise Aerows Dec 2015 #94

+1 million darkangel218 Dec 2015 #106

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #99

Many DUers will still rationalize this and deny the US needs better screening Democat Dec 2015 #101

We do need better screening, if this is true. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #103

From what I understood, she received a "green card" darkangel218 Dec 2015 #102