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Showing Original Post only (View all)The Second Amendment must go: We ban lawn darts. It’s time to ban guns [View all]
http://www.salon.com/2015/12/04/the_second_amendment_must_go_we_ban_lawn_darts_its_time_to_ban_guns/We are one nation, forever fucked by the NRA and an outdated and dangerous read of the Constitution. Let's fix it

Our youngest son just transitioned from crib to bed. Since we dont plan to have any more children, we decided to sell the crib, a hand-me-down from his older brother. Its a nice, well-made crib, made from real wood and bought from a reliable company. We could easily resell it for a handsome price, but we found out a few weeks ago that we cant. Its a drop side crib, and unbeknownst to us the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) banned the manufacture, sale, and resale of drop-sides in 2010, even though individuals can unadvisedly still use them. Drop-sides were responsible for more than 30 infant and toddler deaths in the decade prior to their ban, along with thousands of injuries. We hadnt realized that our kid had been sleeping and playing in a death trap.
A few accidental deaths are often enough to ban certain items, or at the very least recall them, and often without much fanfare. Its strange that we dont have the same reaction to guns. Guns have killed many more infants and toddlers than drop-side cribs, not to mention older children, adolescents, and adults. Guns have killed many more than a host of other objects not originally designed to kill. Remember lawn darts? The CPSC banned the sale of the metal-tipped ones after three deaths and numerous serious injuries.
Yet when it comes to guns, we collectively do nothing, except spout off some strained political rhetoric every now and then, that is, after the most recent mass shooting. [Add in prayer here.] Or we dig in and cite our constitutional right to bear arms, which apparently trumps death, even the death of children. Theres a lot of room for debate regarding the meaning of the second amendment. I doubt very much that our founding fathers envisioned that right in its current form, but even if they did, it really shouldnt matter. The framers of the constitution werent gods, meaning that their words arentand shouldnt besacrosanct.
We know this intuitively, since weve had to add numerous amendments to make up for their failures, lack, or just plain ignorance. But if we can add, we can also take away, by interpreting the Second Amendment differently or passing a new amendment that would effectively repeal it. We should never do so lightly, of coursetaking away rights can be, and often is, a risky enterprise. But the purpose of a right should be individual and collective flourishing. A right, in other words, has as its goal the individual and common good, even if we dont like to use such weighty moral terminology nowadays.
Its not clear to me that gun ownership accomplishes that purpose. It seems more the case that it works against the good of all, in the havoc and murder it wreaks but also in the fear that in promotes. At the very least, we should have a discussion about the relationship of guns to the common good, instead of appealing like a fundamentalist to rights every time something happens that questions their value.
Guns dont kill people, people do, someone will say. But people use guns to kill people, and it makes it much easier to do so, including on a mass scale. The idea that guns arent to blame but the actions of people is misguided and unthinking, to say the least. Specifically, it ignores what guns are for. A crib or, perhaps, a car, may kill under certain circumstances, but thats not what a crib or a car is for. When death does result from their use, we assume that they have, in some way, been misused. At the very least, they have failed to fulfill their intended purpose, intentionally or not. Not so with a gun. The whole point of a gun is to injure or kill. Guns can certainly be used in other ways and for other reasons, such as sport, but these are secondary to its primary function. When a gun is used to injure or kill, its being used as intended. Its the gun thats at issue, because of the type of object that it is.
But the problem is irresponsible gun owners or criminals, not the overwhelming majority of law-abiding citizens who choose to own and use guns responsibly, people say. A fair point at one level, but most everyones responsible and law-abiding until theyre not. People in committed relationships usually go into them with fidelity in mind, yet infidelity is common and, often, unexpected. Its similar with guns and gun owners. No responsible gun owner ever thinks hell ever misuse his gununtil he does something stupid, gets angry in the wrong place at the wrong time, leaves it unattended with children around, or simply snaps. Perhaps that doesnt happen most of the time, but it happens frequently enough to raise questions, even though we usually dont.
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The Second Amendment must go: We ban lawn darts. It’s time to ban guns [View all]
Photographer
Dec 2015
OP
Unless you've been living in a cave for the past 30 years, you can't buy them anymore.
Photographer
Dec 2015
#6
Gunners will be here to tell us it can't happen, their sick fondness for lethal weapons
Hoyt
Dec 2015
#4
^ Spoken like someone who values guns more than the lives of their fellow Americans
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#14
Are you suggesting then that you're hoping for some dictatorial edict that will make right
jonno99
Dec 2015
#34
There is no sufficient alternative to repealing the 2A, banning and confiscating all guns.
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#37
Well, see there I believe you are wrong. According to Bernie even, the vast majority of gun owners
jonno99
Dec 2015
#42
Why is your addiction to guns more important than thousands of lost lives every year?
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#15
"(A)ddiction to guns"? Are you a licensed telepsychologist, or merely playing one on the net?
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2015
#18
Until you gunbers start to value human lives more than guns, you're in no position to criticize.
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#24
I don't own a gun, so your remote sensing is on a par with your remote psychology
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2015
#29
Very little difference between a gunner and someone who merely supports them.
LonePirate
Dec 2015
#31
Your claims to moral superiority have so far been made without evidence
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2015
#33
I am no ones' moral superior- and neither are you. The Second Amendment is yours to repeal
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2015
#48
Holy shit! It sounds as if you must have to protect yourself from violence on a nearly daily basis!
Photographer
Dec 2015
#16
As well as you seem to assume. I can only infer that your fear of bad people with you in their
Photographer
Dec 2015
#21
But did you have a fire extinguisher handy? If so, I must infer that you fear fire constantly.
X_Digger
Dec 2015
#25
I did. Not enough. First home fire for me and while I still have dreams about it I don't sleep wit
Photographer
Dec 2015
#27
I wouldn't be surprised. They've turned paranoia and fear into an art forms.
Photographer
Dec 2015
#47
Try this on for size: If there weren't so many lethal weapons out there, there woul be less reason
Photographer
Dec 2015
#28
Not at all. I edited that out because she found it offensive but I own it.
Photographer
Dec 2015
#38
So I take it you've had a lot of problems with people firing at you in churches, theaters and clinic
Photographer
Dec 2015
#51
The problem is not guns but the violent dialog promoted by conservative radio and conservatiave
Todays_Illusion
Dec 2015
#63
You need the votes of two thirds of Congress and three fourths of the state legislatures.
DemocratSinceBirth
Dec 2015
#72