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Todays_Illusion

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63. The problem is not guns but the violent dialog promoted by conservative radio and conservatiave
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:41 AM
Dec 2015

political rhetoric. Why be suckered into what has been assigned to "liberals," by conservatives to gather votes, you are providing them with the confirmation bias they all seek and it is a lie. I am a liberal and I am not opposed to gun ownership. But most of all I know the violence is a problem created by the dialog. I can say this honestly having been born in a rural environment where everyone had guns, but everyone was then also taught reverence for human life and to never point that gun at a human. There was never a discussion that you might want to kill a person with what were varmint guns to protect livestock or for hunting.

The dialog now seems to be, got a problem, get a gun, don't like someone, get a gun, damn the violent talk, the fear mongering, the promoters of violence as a solution, and this has now become a grand vote generator for Republicans if you are opposed to gun ownership you must want to endanger them. They are such babies, but they are winning and we have lost a lot of political power on this stupid issue and the real problem with violence in this nation is the violent dialog.

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and... Photographer Dec 2015 #1
Not naive at all... tecelote Dec 2015 #61
Come to think of it forsaken mortal Dec 2015 #2
Unless you've been living in a cave for the past 30 years, you can't buy them anymore. Photographer Dec 2015 #6
That's nice hack89 Dec 2015 #3
Sure. Can I suggest Somalia. They are very pro gun there. Photographer Dec 2015 #9
Rhode Island is pro-gun enough for me, thank you very much. Nt hack89 Dec 2015 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Maynar Dec 2015 #59
Yay Cholera! Maynar Dec 2015 #60
Somalia has stricter gun laws than most US states. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #68
Better Than Somalia: How to Feel Good About Gun Violence Photographer Dec 2015 #71
Gunpolicy.org Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #73
Neat site. Photographer Dec 2015 #74
Gunners will be here to tell us it can't happen, their sick fondness for lethal weapons Hoyt Dec 2015 #4
No, all you have to do is create a plurality of the electorate who wish to jonno99 Dec 2015 #8
^ Spoken like someone who values guns more than the lives of their fellow Americans LonePirate Dec 2015 #14
Everything they said was true, whether you like it or not friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #17
Are you suggesting then that you're hoping for some dictatorial edict that will make right jonno99 Dec 2015 #34
There is no sufficient alternative to repealing the 2A, banning and confiscating all guns. LonePirate Dec 2015 #37
Well, see there I believe you are wrong. According to Bernie even, the vast majority of gun owners jonno99 Dec 2015 #42
You would also have to repeal... meaculpa2011 Dec 2015 #62
Is ryan_cats Dec 2015 #40
What's the matter? GGJohn Dec 2015 #67
Its cant happen Travis_0004 Dec 2015 #46
Sounds like a plea. Hoyt Dec 2015 #65
I'll keep my rights, thanks anyway. ileus Dec 2015 #5
Will you be taking my cutlery as well? B2G Dec 2015 #7
Well, they are working on that in the UK (as you probably know)...nt jonno99 Dec 2015 #10
Not really, but do need a different interpretation, elleng Dec 2015 #11
Exactly. We just need to change ONE nutter Justice for a progressive one. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #57
If only! elleng Dec 2015 #58
I'll make you a deal B2G Dec 2015 #13
Why is your addiction to guns more important than thousands of lost lives every year? LonePirate Dec 2015 #15
"(A)ddiction to guns"? Are you a licensed telepsychologist, or merely playing one on the net? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #18
Until you gunbers start to value human lives more than guns, you're in no position to criticize. LonePirate Dec 2015 #24
I don't own a gun, so your remote sensing is on a par with your remote psychology friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #29
Very little difference between a gunner and someone who merely supports them. LonePirate Dec 2015 #31
Your claims to moral superiority have so far been made without evidence friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #33
What do evidence and morals have to do with one another? LonePirate Dec 2015 #35
I am no ones' moral superior- and neither are you. The Second Amendment is yours to repeal friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #48
I am not "addicted to guns" B2G Dec 2015 #19
Why not use an alarm system, a guard dog, some mace or a baseball bat? LonePirate Dec 2015 #22
paranoia requires guns Skittles Dec 2015 #41
Holy shit! It sounds as if you must have to protect yourself from violence on a nearly daily basis! Photographer Dec 2015 #16
You assume a lot. B2G Dec 2015 #20
As well as you seem to assume. I can only infer that your fear of bad people with you in their Photographer Dec 2015 #21
But did you have a fire extinguisher handy? If so, I must infer that you fear fire constantly. X_Digger Dec 2015 #25
I did. Not enough. First home fire for me and while I still have dreams about it I don't sleep wit Photographer Dec 2015 #27
I just had this same discussion with my niece's friend on Facebook. dflprincess Dec 2015 #44
I wouldn't be surprised. They've turned paranoia and fear into an art forms. Photographer Dec 2015 #47
Lol. Ok. B2G Dec 2015 #26
Try this on for size: If there weren't so many lethal weapons out there, there woul be less reason Photographer Dec 2015 #28
How many guns are already in circulation? B2G Dec 2015 #30
There's a shitload of both types. Photographer Dec 2015 #32
K&r RandySF Dec 2015 #23
That's like 10 OP's DashOneBravo Dec 2015 #36
Not at all. I edited that out because she found it offensive but I own it. Photographer Dec 2015 #38
Many find that offensive DashOneBravo Dec 2015 #43
I'm sorry. Can we have a hug now? Photographer Dec 2015 #45
Sure DashOneBravo Dec 2015 #49
I remember playing lawn darts back in the 70's. Fun game. Waldorf Dec 2015 #39
Disarm all the criminals first, then I'll happily disarm. Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #50
So I take it you've had a lot of problems with people firing at you in churches, theaters and clinic Photographer Dec 2015 #51
Where have the last few mass murders taken place? Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #52
In the Middle East. Is that where you live? Photographer Dec 2015 #54
*sigh.* Ok, fine, be disingenuous. Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #55
I don't base that decision on mass murders...because I'm not irrational. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #70
Ww had neighbors who had lawn jarts. Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #53
K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #56
The problem is not guns but the violent dialog promoted by conservative radio and conservatiave Todays_Illusion Dec 2015 #63
Taking away the 2nd amendment will do what exactly? romanic Dec 2015 #64
Absolutely fuck-all, of course. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #69
Ban everything. bigwillq Dec 2015 #66
You need the votes of two thirds of Congress and three fourths of the state legislatures. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #72
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