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True Earthling

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50. OK I'll rephrase it...marijuana is not a safe drug
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 05:37 PM
Dec 2015

I did not mean to imply that only totally safe drugs should be approved or used. I used to smoke pot regularly about 40 yrs ago..I still do occasionally but I understand the risks. There is no way I would smoke it every day or even every week. I'm also aware that the THC content is several magnitudes higher today than when I was a regular pot smoker...what used to take a joint or 2 to get really stoned only takes 1 or 2 tokes now.

There's a statement in the article posted below that carries a lot of truth IMO...


"The perception that cannabis is a safe drug is a mistaken reaction to a past history of exaggeration of its health risks," Hall told Live Science.


If your going to ingest a mind altering drug I think it's your responsibility to know as much about how that drug effects your mind & body...good or bad. I would never take the word of a user as to the safety or the effects. There's lots of unbiased research studies and corroborated information out there. It's pretty easy to find.

Marijuana and Your Health: What 20 Years of Research Reveals

http://www.livescience.com/48171-marijuana-research-health-effects-review.html
In the review, author Wayne Hall, a professor and director of the Center for Youth Substance Abuse Research at the University of Queensland in Australia, examined scientific evidence on marijuana's health effects between 1993 and 2013.

He found that adolescents who use cannabis regularly are about twice as likely as their nonuser peers to drop out of school, as well as experience cognitive impairment and psychoses as adults. Moreover, studies have also linked regular cannabis use in adolescence with the use of other illicit drugs, according to the review, published today (Oct. 6) in the journal Addiction.

"The perception that cannabis is a safe drug is a mistaken reaction to a past history of exaggeration of its health risks," Hall told Live Science.

However, he added that marijuana "is not as harmful as other illicit drugs such as amphetamine, cocaine and heroin, with which it is classified under the law in many countries, including the USA."

The risks of using marijuana

Marijuana use carries some of the same risks as alcohol use, such as an increased risk of accidents, dependence and psychosis, he said.

It's likely that middle-age people who smoke marijuana regularly are at an increased risk of experiencing a heart attack, according to the report. However, the drug's "effects on respiratory function and respiratory cancer remain unclear, because most cannabis smokers have smoked or still smoke tobacco," Hall wrote in the review.

Regular cannabis users also double their risk of experiencing psychotic symptoms and disorders such as disordered thinking, hallucinations and delusions — from about seven in 1,000 cases among nonusers to 14 in 1,000 among regular marijuana users, the review said. And, in a study of more than 50,000 young men in Sweden, those who had used marijuana 10 or more times by age 18 were about two times more likely to be diagnosed with schizophrenia within the next 15 years than those who had not used the drug.

Critics argue that other variables besides marijuana use may be at work in the increased risk of mental health problems, and that it's possible that people with mental health problems are more likely to use marijuana to begin with, Hall wrote in the review.

However, other studies have since attempted to sort out the findings, he wrote, citing a 27-year follow-up of the Swedish cohort, in which researchers found "a dose–response relationship between frequency of cannabis use at age 18 and risk of schizophrenia during the whole follow-up period."

In the same study, the investigators estimated that 13 percent of schizophrenia cases diagnosed in the study "could be averted if all cannabis use had been prevented in the cohort," Hall reported.

As for the effects of cannabis use in pregnant women, the drug may slightly reduce the birth weight of the baby, according to the review.

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Some of the dangers of Cannabis include.. [View all] Playinghardball Dec 2015 OP
being too expensive? 6chars Dec 2015 #1
Grow your own. Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #25
Thanks! Glad to eliminate the danger. 6chars Dec 2015 #37
What danger? Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #38
the danger of paying too much. 6chars Dec 2015 #39
It's not expensive in Portland. dilby Dec 2015 #86
throwback prices! 6chars Dec 2015 #91
I don't know what prices were before legalization dilby Dec 2015 #94
Oregon fares well 6chars Dec 2015 #95
And increased risk of psychotic episodes. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2015 #2
Funny that I've never heard of anyone ever having one of these psychotic episodes tabasco Dec 2015 #7
Right.. personal experience is much more reliable than controlled research studies True Earthling Dec 2015 #54
But I didn't post that, did I? tabasco Dec 2015 #59
What was my lie? True Earthling Dec 2015 #67
Ahh...the defense between studies and real life...not just for kids anymore! Rex Dec 2015 #14
Wow. I'm really kind of amazed at how much... Spider Jerusalem Dec 2015 #24
+1000 True Earthling Dec 2015 #57
I'm really amazed that you imply that the studies show that marijuana causes mental illness tabasco Dec 2015 #60
There's evidence both ways... True Earthling Dec 2015 #81
If it's an illegal drug that's difficult to prove. hunter Dec 2015 #18
The research is not as solid as you think Major Nikon Dec 2015 #20
Is anything 100% benign? TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #30
True davidpdx Dec 2015 #72
One of my brothers had a reeeeeally strange hallucination, but I think he was mixing drugs Hekate Dec 2015 #31
Most of the evidence suggests that there's some risk of psychotic episodes... Spider Jerusalem Dec 2015 #34
Interesting. Well, we now know he is ADHD, which drives other people crazy. OTT, I don't know Hekate Dec 2015 #42
I'm 65, been smoking since I was 15. panader0 Dec 2015 #43
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data" (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Dec 2015 #47
I find your anti-drug stance ironic SwankyXomb Dec 2015 #88
Whatever gives you the impression that I'm "anti-drug"? Spider Jerusalem Dec 2015 #89
From the second link ---- Avalux Dec 2015 #40
Life causes psychotic episodes. GliderGuider Dec 2015 #41
nonsense! wildbilln864 Dec 2015 #44
There is an App for that. dilby Dec 2015 #87
Cheetoh overdose! tabasco Dec 2015 #3
Been there. They should include a whippee in those bags. brush Dec 2015 #11
The only real danger is getting arrested. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #4
Legalize it Yorktown Dec 2015 #5
Don't just legalize it. Make it mandatory. Major Nikon Dec 2015 #23
I am opposed to mandatory drug testing cojoel Dec 2015 #48
I wouldn't mind trying it in edible form davidpdx Dec 2015 #73
Right...anecdotal evidence from a user vs. scientific research True Earthling Dec 2015 #6
Should we outlaw everything that is not "totally safe?" tabasco Dec 2015 #8
OK I'll rephrase it...marijuana is not a safe drug True Earthling Dec 2015 #50
Tylenol is not a safe drug. NSAIDS are not safe drugs. Alcohol is not a safe drug. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #56
Exactly. True Earthling Dec 2015 #69
I'll rephrase too: tabasco Dec 2015 #62
Why are you asking me about gun control? True Earthling Dec 2015 #66
It is safe for me. I have tested it on myself for over 40 roody Dec 2015 #84
Science is just now able to start testing it, and the findings are positive NightWatcher Dec 2015 #9
My mother had vicious chemo side-effects. I really wish she'd had medical pot.nt Hekate Dec 2015 #33
Reefer madness was made about 80 yrs ago... True Earthling Dec 2015 #52
What form do you use for your peripheral neuropathy? Adsos Letter Dec 2015 #63
Find a tincture of a predominantly indica blend NightWatcher Dec 2015 #70
Thank you so much. Adsos Letter Dec 2015 #71
I also have Raynauds and it affects my feet as well NightWatcher Dec 2015 #74
My neuropathy is severe sorefeet Dec 2015 #75
the dangers of too much dihydrogen monoxide. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #10
Huh! Translate, pls. brush Dec 2015 #13
Refers to spilling the bong water. Scuba Dec 2015 #15
And? brush Dec 2015 #21
Too much or too little water can kill. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #26
Dihydrogen monoxide = H20 = water. Ingesting too much can throw your electrolytes for a loop... Hekate Dec 2015 #36
neither is aspirin 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #12
Sometimes things are not that complicated brush Dec 2015 #16
The science says that after hundreds of years of human trials without a single death caused by pot.. cleanhippie Dec 2015 #17
It's not really safe until it's been put in a pill. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #19
I suppose you're right. Until it's well 'regulated', it just isn't safe! cleanhippie Dec 2015 #22
High Pressure Sodium or Metal Halide? U4ikLefty Dec 2015 #58
I'm actually just getting started, and using LED. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #68
Very cool. U4ikLefty Dec 2015 #76
I grow outside sorefeet Dec 2015 #77
I live in L.A. and would love to grow some beauties outdoors, but U4ikLefty Dec 2015 #80
I know, if it were legal sorefeet Dec 2015 #93
Thanks. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #78
Acually, I have a script. U4ikLefty Dec 2015 #79
If by "pills" you mean beautiful flowers JNelson6563 Dec 2015 #92
You do understand that the OP is not offering evidence but making a joke, don't you? Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #27
peanuts! wildbilln864 Dec 2015 #45
And you can't tell me peanuts aren't a gateway to cashews. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #51
Please list all "totally safe" items we use. nt Logical Dec 2015 #82
ever get caught watching TV olddots Dec 2015 #28
Reality is for people who can't handle drugs. Doc_Technical Dec 2015 #29
Shit, weed makes reality all too real. TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #35
It's dangerous to big pharma and the private prison industry. TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #32
yes and a dozen other industries! n/t wildbilln864 Dec 2015 #46
Ding, ding, ding. hifiguy Dec 2015 #49
Follow the money. tecelote Dec 2015 #55
It's not as safe as it seems. JeffHead Dec 2015 #53
Gotta love Willie. hifiguy Dec 2015 #61
The most insidious thing about marijuana is that it can be a massive time/motivation suck. Throd Dec 2015 #64
Wake and bake I could never do. But often roody Dec 2015 #85
The biggest danger I getting busted. leftyladyfrommo Dec 2015 #96
Laughing so Munificence Dec 2015 #65
We are now in our 23rd straight year with a president who has used 6chars Dec 2015 #83
At 52 yrs. of age nilesobek Dec 2015 #90
there is a link to TIA's and marijuana..I had a few and always linked to the times I smoked weed Demonaut Dec 2015 #97
Don't kid yourself it's harmless Demonaut Dec 2015 #98
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