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Turn CO Blue

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33. I agree it's humorous to suggest that we simply allow them to secede, but this talk
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 07:17 PM
Dec 2015

makes me concerned because there would some ugly consequences beyond economics!

I do not even want to imagine what would happen to any migrants or undocumented workers, any Muslims, any atheists, any uppity women, any outspoken liberal activists still in Texas who had not fled by the time this nightmare bill passed their legislation and Gov Abbott signed it.

I know the secession will NEVER happen.

But the idea of secession represents dim, simplistic reasoning by some very short-sighted people and we should encourage the idea of thinking this decision through for the average Texan. If we begin to list out the devastating consequences of this action - consequences to the nation and to the people of Texas and to those in and around the borders of Texas and Mexico -- it becomes clear that this would be a monumentally idiotic, catastrophic undertaking.

There would be staggering economic and societal upheaval and losses.

The US would reclaim all its resources and stop funding for federal programs - (military equipment, personnel, bases, coast guard, highway funding and upkeep, rail trains, govt internet routers, postal equipment, federal prisons, NASA, FBI, CIA, and more pressing - Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, federal student loan programs, satellite transmissions, etc.) the list goes on for days

No matter what conversion steps they took in advance, I think their economy would simply collapse on Day One.

Every American and international corporation headquartered there would flee at the speed of light to avoid currency devaluation and plummeting stocks (Ball Aerospace, large US and international banks, American and Southwest Airlines, restaurants, telecommunications, cable, trucking companies, etc)

Most Americans with resources would flee to an established nation where they have citizenship and rights (doctors, surgeons, lawyers, professionals, educators) causing an immediately skills-drain

The start up costs for Texas to establish and protect itself as an independent nation would exceed several TRILLION dollars and take several years (establishing and minting currency, establishing a stock exchange, funding a military, defending their borders, setting up state departments, negotiating treaties, establishing postal service) again the list goes on for days.

I wonder how money would flow? What family member or tourist would want to cross the border to get there and possibly get stuck?

The challenges become almost incomprehensible to list, much less to overcome.







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The only hand we need is in defeating these ignorant people MagickMuffin Dec 2015 #1
Liberal refugees will be welcomed all over the country, almost anyway. Then when Mexico brewens Dec 2015 #2
We will take the liberal ones from Austin and they can have our Republicans. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #3
No fair. tecelote Dec 2015 #28
It's not that far from Austin to Arkansas and a lot of them are already from Arkansas, so they are LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #32
Well, if Texas secedes... then Austin, Arkansas does have a nice ring to it. tecelote Dec 2015 #37
Well, it's sedition of the first order... Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #4
Another paragraph from that link. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #5
Isn't Texas a state that receives more money than it pays in taxes? Renew Deal Dec 2015 #10
.... phantom power Dec 2015 #6
We've got 'em on the run! Baitball Blogger Dec 2015 #7
I hope they put it on the ballot Renew Deal Dec 2015 #8
Fine, leave already. We'll take back all our military bases, NASA, Fla Dem Dec 2015 #9
Where can I donate? Crunchy Frog Dec 2015 #11
Please--do America a favor meow2u3 Dec 2015 #12
In all honesty, if they want to go let them go. Marrah_G Dec 2015 #13
That's what they thought would happen last time they voted to secede Yupster Dec 2015 #27
We could sell them back to Mexico. Fuddnik Dec 2015 #14
I think Mexico would want us to pay them too much. BlueJazz Dec 2015 #16
Doesn't Texas have the ability to secede based on how they joined the union? Kilgore Dec 2015 #15
No. mountain grammy Dec 2015 #20
Ok, I'm was time on YouTube Kilgore Dec 2015 #21
Texas fought for "independence" from Mexico mountain grammy Dec 2015 #35
I'd say no since they did it once Yupster Dec 2015 #29
They did try to secede. Then went to war against the US and lost. Angleae Dec 2015 #44
But they were an independent country for ten years prior to joining the union. Kilgore Dec 2015 #47
Just leave, already. hifiguy Dec 2015 #17
I wish 'em luck. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #18
I'm an Atheist but.. BlueJazz Dec 2015 #19
Nope... there are a lot of good dems (and other innocents) in Texas. demmiblue Dec 2015 #22
Would that donco Dec 2015 #23
He'd have the trifecta ... Canada, Cuba and the Republic of Texas. I nominate him for President libdem4life Dec 2015 #25
As soon as TX goes Runningdawg Dec 2015 #24
Yeah, because it worked so well the last time... Wounded Bear Dec 2015 #26
Are Not Republicans All About "The Republic" - Now Voting For The Dissolution Of The "The Republic" cantbeserious Dec 2015 #30
In all seriousness, forget Texas, but Yupster Dec 2015 #31
There are two possible legal routes... BillZBubb Dec 2015 #34
I agree it's humorous to suggest that we simply allow them to secede, but this talk Turn CO Blue Dec 2015 #33
so we can wall out texas and stop financing it? GREAT!!!! larkrake Dec 2015 #36
Texas would become a failed Hills Have Eyes nation, with raiding parties crossing to border states. NBachers Dec 2015 #38
If They Were Honest SDJay Dec 2015 #39
ok, then i want some payback for all the federal facilities in TX 0rganism Dec 2015 #40
Does that mean that if it passes, Carnival Cruz would be ineligible to be President? MiniMe Dec 2015 #41
He already is, since he is a dual Canadian-US citizen and not a "natural" one. apnu Dec 2015 #46
I agree MiniMe Dec 2015 #49
Sure is a very large collection of dumbass replies on this thread. Do some of you think CBGLuthier Dec 2015 #42
Those people don't have to go with Texas Glitterati Dec 2015 #43
OK Texas, you want to go, here's a list of U. S. Property I want back when you leave. apnu Dec 2015 #45
Here's the part of this that everyone seems to miss Major Nikon Dec 2015 #48
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