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VanillaRhapsody

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174. Yes you can....we already do...

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:26 PM

Dec 2015

We make you jump through hoops to do lots of things

You cannot just hang a shingle and call yourself a doctor can you?

You cannot buy Sudafed without going behind the counter anymore can you?

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We will not live in a free society if we continue to allow gun access to anyone with a pulse. [View all] boston bean Dec 2015 OP

K&R octoberlib Dec 2015 #1

I already live in a free safe society, GGJohn Dec 2015 #2

But, you'll be freer if you give up some of your freedom pintobean Dec 2015 #3

Double plus freedom... TipTok Dec 2015 #5

The response to this by some, I assume like you, is to arm more people. boston bean Dec 2015 #4

You do know the definition of a strawman argument, right? shadowrider Dec 2015 #6

You're keeping all your precious is infringing on my freedom. boston bean Dec 2015 #7

Oh bullshit. GGJohn Dec 2015 #9

Your defense of your right to "freedom" is infringing upon others rights, and boston bean Dec 2015 #11

I love how you put freedom in quotation marks, like it's not a real freedom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #17

Your right and fight to own them makes society less safe. boston bean Dec 2015 #22

No, it doesn't. GGJohn Dec 2015 #26

Ah... This was the classic argument I came to see... intersectionality Dec 2015 #48

I wake up every morning to the sound of gunshots... meaculpa2011 Dec 2015 #51

And that argument will result in the Defeat of Hillary Clinton hollowdweller Dec 2015 #96

No, that would be the criminal misuse of firearms. pintobean Dec 2015 #13

No, I am not accusing anyone of committing a crime. boston bean Dec 2015 #19

I live in one of the most dangerous cities in the country pintobean Dec 2015 #29

Straw man lark Dec 2015 #58

Pffft pintobean Dec 2015 #65

Unfortunately, lots of gun owners think any laws are demonizing. lark Dec 2015 #71

You accused me of straw man? pintobean Dec 2015 #79

They are ok to own, as long as you can pass the extensive background check GGJohn Dec 2015 #82

"Lots of gun owners are totally irresponsible" Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #121

Only because you're letting it. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #14

The fear is coming from those who think they need these weapons for security. boston bean Dec 2015 #16

Okay, I'm obviously wasting my time. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #18

+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #139

Tell that to the hundreds of Americans who have lost a loved one to gun violence. lark Dec 2015 #64

No one's claiming it's "imaginary." Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #69

Maybe you live in the country? lark Dec 2015 #72

I live downtown in a fairly big city. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #84

Gun deaths are at historically low levels. hollowdweller Dec 2015 #100

Indeed so, and when I point that out... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #109

Facts: Spider Jerusalem Dec 2015 #193

If you don't want a gun, don't buy one. Simple! yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #128

Total bull hockey. My firearms are not at all infringing on your freadoms Waldorf Dec 2015 #136

+1000 nt Mojorabbit Dec 2015 #145

You really should get your money back for that internet psychology course you took. GGJohn Dec 2015 #8

You're defense of your precious rights superceding every other right boston bean Dec 2015 #10

Assault rifles? GGJohn Dec 2015 #12

I'm fine... you might need some education though... boston bean Dec 2015 #15

It's still not an assault rifle, GGJohn Dec 2015 #21

What does the AR stand for in AR-15? nt boston bean Dec 2015 #23

branding DustyJoe Dec 2015 #24

Armalite Rifle. GGJohn Dec 2015 #25

You want me to argue semantics of gun language. boston bean Dec 2015 #27

LOL. GGJohn Dec 2015 #28

I got caught, so sue me. boston bean Dec 2015 #30

I have no desire to sue you, GGJohn Dec 2015 #31

I hope you will stop making your mistakes too. nt boston bean Dec 2015 #34

What mistakes? eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #35

Fighting for more access to more killing machines in the name of freedom. boston bean Dec 2015 #36

Ah, but that's not what I'm doing, GGJohn Dec 2015 #38

Your fight only leads to it. Feel better? OK... boston bean Dec 2015 #39

So you don't think law abiding citizens should have the right to decide GGJohn Dec 2015 #42

I think a lot of people do stupid things. boston bean Dec 2015 #46

But suppose they don't think it's stupid? GGJohn Dec 2015 #49

Each and every single victim of this proliferation of mass killing machines in the name of freedom boston bean Dec 2015 #50

NO lark Dec 2015 #67

Lol aikoaiko Dec 2015 #33

Come on... everyone KNOWS it's "Assault Rifle Fifteen". n/t cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #130

Armalite rifle Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #47

Who cares? lark Dec 2015 #75

If one is going to propose legislation, GGJohn Dec 2015 #80

I don't think that the details of the guns matter, no. lark Dec 2015 #107

"..gun ownership in this country is driving us to be the 2nd tier murder capital of the world" EX500rider Dec 2015 #102

I do when people continue Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #104

AR stands for Armalite, the company who orignially designed the firearm back in the 50's. Waldorf Dec 2015 #137

Again, half truths., lark Dec 2015 #61

The hell conversion kits aren't banned, tell the ATF that. GGJohn Dec 2015 #76

Don'tcha just love all the untrue facts... beevul Dec 2015 #115

yep the outright lies Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #122

comprehension DustyJoe Dec 2015 #20

There is, however, a definite legal definition of an assault rifle. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #191

We are fortunate that we live in a state that has one of the lowest rates smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #37

You are making the rest of us, including your family, less safe. lark Dec 2015 #53

All our firearms are locked up in safes seperate from the ammo, which has it's own safe. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #133

No kidding. This OP is over the top yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #127

Agreed, only dead people should be allowed gun access. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #32

Is THAT your response to a post asking for accepting some limits to gun ownership in CTyankee Dec 2015 #40

The OP wants to ban and confiscate guns. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #43

She said no such thing in her post. CTyankee Dec 2015 #44

Read her other posts. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #52

Why would that concern you? pintobean Dec 2015 #54

Oh, I don't know. I just thought it was a funny thing to say... CTyankee Dec 2015 #59

I didn't. pintobean Dec 2015 #66

So, you are part of the problem then. lark Dec 2015 #78

No, gun confiscators are the problem. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #81

No gun collectors who fetishize over these killing implements so much boston bean Dec 2015 #89

The RKBA is an enumerated right in the constitution. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #91

And limiting the type of guns is not an infringement. boston bean Dec 2015 #93

So as long as you can have just 1 book, of someone elses choosing... beevul Dec 2015 #118

The FBI can place anyone on the "No-Fly" list... meaculpa2011 Dec 2015 #90

Guns are not being used bought by people in well-regulated militias. lark Dec 2015 #98

No, you do not support the constitution. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #99

Two can play lark Dec 2015 #101

I disagree with CU. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #103

Wrong is wrong. lark Dec 2015 #110

I REFUSE to support ANY amendment to the constitution which alters ANY of the first ten amendments MohRokTah Dec 2015 #111

"Bet you think terrorists should be able to buy guns too" pintobean Dec 2015 #97

The OP stated that we shouldn't allow gun access to ANYONE with a pulse. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #68

Why do so many people on both the left and the right despise the consitution? MohRokTah Dec 2015 #41

what does that even mean? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #55

What a ridiculous thing to say. Chef Eric Dec 2015 #86

You will NEVER see the second amendment repealed. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #88

You're 100% right, because by the time it happens, I will be dead. Chef Eric Dec 2015 #94

I dare you to take guns away NYCButterfinger Dec 2015 #45

Then we need to regulate ownership like Japan does. VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #57

sounds good to me! CTyankee Dec 2015 #60

That would do nothing for the millions who already own them. NutmegYankee Dec 2015 #74

They would not be grandfathered VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #92

Pssst... speed limits don't prevent ANY speeding. Everyone drives at the speed they're comfortable cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #132

I would, especially on certain roads around where I live. NobodyHere Dec 2015 #134

The 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendments would likely bar your idea. branford Dec 2015 #147

Nobody said you cannot have them VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #151

You don't understand the nature of constitutional jurisprudence branford Dec 2015 #158

And if you don't go through the hoops NutmegYankee Dec 2015 #165

You can still speed and run redlights VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #167

Different matter all together. NutmegYankee Dec 2015 #169

Yes you can....we already do... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #174

Your talking about business regulation (professions and sales) NutmegYankee Dec 2015 #179

We can do anything if we want to... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #182

Are you going to overthrow the Government? NutmegYankee Dec 2015 #184

I don't have to....we have elections VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #185

Hillary isn't a threat to ownership. NutmegYankee Dec 2015 #186

Did I say that? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #187

Obviously this is just a waste of my time. NutmegYankee Dec 2015 #189

Waste of time because you know I am right.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #190

Now if you got caught with a prescription drug VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #175

Car inspections are legal because driving on public roads is a privilege. NutmegYankee Dec 2015 #178

Bullshit... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #180

LOL. NutmegYankee Dec 2015 #181

Damn skippy VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #183

As long as the federal government pays for all of those things, I'm cool with it yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #135

Why should they? Do you pay to have your car VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #188

"Be tough and stop being afraid of a gun." Crunchy Frog Dec 2015 #62

I like the wasy you blame an inanimate object TeddyR Dec 2015 #56

Who can legally get firearms now that you think shouldn't? Recursion Dec 2015 #63

all for anyone in country on a residents visa/family of american citizen visa a ban on gun purchases Sunlei Dec 2015 #70

A good start would be to ban military-type assault rifles. jalan48 Dec 2015 #73

What is different? GGJohn Dec 2015 #87

So-educate me then. jalan48 Dec 2015 #95

they are .223 semi-auto Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #108

Thanks for the response. Also, what is the value of owning one of these guns? jalan48 Dec 2015 #112

I do not hunt Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #114

I didn't realize the Ar-10 was used for hunting. jalan48 Dec 2015 #117

probably in the 80s and 90s Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #120

A thought.... jalan48 Dec 2015 #123

nope Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #124

Allrighty, I can see where you're coming from. jalan48 Dec 2015 #125

join the club Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #126

No thanks. jalan48 Dec 2015 #129

Thank you for having an open mind.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #171

very true Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #172

Duckhunter.... virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #170

I have a LR-308 that fires a .308 cartridge, and shoots just as accurate as my .308 bolt rifle. Waldorf Dec 2015 #140

Did you know anybody who used an M-1 Garand? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #144

+1000. GGJohn Dec 2015 #148

Thank you for the civil conversation, GGJohn Dec 2015 #173

But it's fair to mention that when most people think of "a .22," they're thinking... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #113

very true, thanks Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #116

it's a good thing Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #105

Except the stores aren't selling those military-type assault rifles. Need to join the military or Waldorf Dec 2015 #138

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I completely agree with you, and don't think most of your respondents Crunchy Frog Dec 2015 #77

Yes, thanks for responding. boston bean Dec 2015 #85

agreed. K and R. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2015 #83

Should our future sarisataka Dec 2015 #106

No, because it won't stop someone on that list from obtaining a firearm from a friend 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #131

The OP was about reduction sarisataka Dec 2015 #141

it amazes me that this needs to be said out loud in 2015 restorefreedom Dec 2015 #119

One of the reasons people are against universal background checks (and I am one of them) is because Waldorf Dec 2015 #142

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what is the current issue restorefreedom Dec 2015 #195

Of course you are right, Boston, but as we all know the gungeoneers won't let you say it without a Squinch Dec 2015 #143

Really? GGJohn Dec 2015 #150

Translation: Nyah nyah! Squinch Dec 2015 #152

Translation: I can't refute, so I belittle. GGJohn Dec 2015 #153

Translation: Nyah, nyah and double nyah nyah! With laughing guy! So there! Squinch Dec 2015 #154

LOL. GGJohn Dec 2015 #156

Translation: I need to have the last word! Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!!! With laughing guy! Squinch Dec 2015 #159

Yes. Boy do I hate gun nuts. alarimer Dec 2015 #146

So much nonsense in so many words. GGJohn Dec 2015 #149

Truth: a large number of gun owners own guns due to fear, paranoia and masculinity issues. LonePirate Dec 2015 #157

Got any stats on your claim? GGJohn Dec 2015 #160

Are you one of those who propagates the nonsensical "guns keep us safe" claptrap? LonePirate Dec 2015 #166

I've never stated that guns keep us safe, GGJohn Dec 2015 #168

There are many changes that are needed at a policy level nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #155

I'm already free and safe. Hyperbole doesn't sway me LittleBlue Dec 2015 #161

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I have ask several times what would the solution the would suggest to get the mass shootings stopped Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #176

I need... deathrind Dec 2015 #177

Hi Ms bean discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #192

I suspect you may have it backwards. Just my opinion. n/t Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #194