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branford

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88. People also seem to forget that automatic weapons as also generally legal,

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:33 PM

Dec 2015

as are tanks, fighter jets, rpgs, etc.

They are very expensive to buy and operate, and require onerous paperwork, but a lot of people do indeed possess NFA and other arms.

I'm curious what would happen if Congress tried an outright ban on the civilian ownership of all automatic weapons in this political climate, and how courts would respond to such an unlikely event.

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I would be extremely content if Assault Rifles and Semi Auto Hand guns [View all] boston bean Dec 2015 OP

You probably mean a revolver and not a pistol exboyfil Dec 2015 #1

You are right, I did mean that. Thanks, I changed it. boston bean Dec 2015 #2

You also have this guy exboyfil Dec 2015 #3

I've shot Munificence Dec 2015 #89

Hey, Munificence, old pal. I think we need to set the record straight between us, huh? Squinch Dec 2015 #91

and yet Munificence Dec 2015 #94

Oh. My. God. You responded to my post! Stalker!!!!!! Harasser!!!!! Squinch Dec 2015 #95

That's nice hack89 Dec 2015 #4

OK. EL34x4 Dec 2015 #5

Lack of knowledge r/t to specific terms .... etherealtruth Dec 2015 #6

you are so RIGHT! What business do you have coming on to this board and spouting your CTyankee Dec 2015 #7

Imagine if someone came in with their plans to stop abortions... TipTok Dec 2015 #20

yeah, imagine if they did not know the exact names of the instruments used ........ etherealtruth Dec 2015 #22

Most of the control crowd talk... TipTok Dec 2015 #23

They all know it is a medcal procedure ending with the termination of a pregnancy etherealtruth Dec 2015 #25

Shouldn't those that want legislation and those that write the legislation, GGJohn Dec 2015 #27

Writing the legislation .... yes. In discussing the concept it is pedantic etherealtruth Dec 2015 #29

Fair enough. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #31

I agree. Mojorabbit Dec 2015 #30

Not going to happen REP Dec 2015 #48

Well then, I guess you're going to live your life in discontent. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #8

Will mass shootings with those weapons be less tragic to you? aikoaiko Dec 2015 #9

There will be less victims. boston bean Dec 2015 #10

So you're ok with dead terror attack victims shadowrider Dec 2015 #12

The latest terrorists pintobean Dec 2015 #15

Well shadowrider Dec 2015 #18

This is what I'm waiting for... TipTok Dec 2015 #21

In some cases you might be right but not in all. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #13

Tell that to Charles Whitman REP Dec 2015 #47

And it was civilians with rifles shooting in conjunction with police GGJohn Dec 2015 #49

No, it was a cop who shot him REP Dec 2015 #52

Correct, but I said an armed civilian accompanied them up that tower, I didn't say GGJohn Dec 2015 #53

My eyes ain't what they used to be REP Dec 2015 #55

No problem, GGJohn Dec 2015 #57

Assault rifles are already illegal in every state due to federal law. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #11

Yeah, they don't understand the difference between "assault style" and actual assault rifles REP Dec 2015 #54

The AWB set back the gun control movement at least three decades. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #56

+1000. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #60

Well, I'm sure it made Bushmaster a ton of money REP Dec 2015 #61

+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #14

Thanks for the laugh I got from reading your post Lurks Often Dec 2015 #16

Good gun owners promising to go bad... sanatanadharma Dec 2015 #34

Nice rant, GGJohn Dec 2015 #38

Why do you think the majority of states are going to along with this nonsense? Lurks Often Dec 2015 #39

Gun market, gun stores, etc., would be all but extinct. Gun Yahoos are attracted Hoyt Dec 2015 #17

... GGJohn Dec 2015 #19

Such a ban would be struck down as unconstitutional almost immediately. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #24

What will you do if our Dem nominee winds up being in favor of MORE gun control? CTyankee Dec 2015 #26

I'm in favor of reasaonable control measures. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #32

thanks. That's what I thought... CTyankee Dec 2015 #33

Since no Democratic candidate is so stupid as to call for banning semi-automatic weapons MohRokTah Dec 2015 #36

hey, it's OK, I get it... CTyankee Dec 2015 #41

You, and a few others. Captain Stern Dec 2015 #28

Ban the revolvers too. tabasco Dec 2015 #35

Would you ban a replica Colt 1858 Army revolver, too? MohRokTah Dec 2015 #37

I have one of those after 6 shots the victims could have a coffee while doc03 Dec 2015 #44

Multitudes of more people are murdered with hand guns than in mass shootings. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #46

Donate it to a museum. tabasco Dec 2015 #58

No. GGJohn Dec 2015 #62

I KNEW you guys would go after black powder weapons MohRokTah Dec 2015 #63

Amazing ain't it? eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #69

Especially amazing considering the revolver is 4 centuries old. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #82

Hell, ban everything. EVERYTHING, I TELL YOU! Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #40

You'd be surprised how a felony conviction gets people to comply. tabasco Dec 2015 #64

So your in favor of enriching our prison system? GGJohn Dec 2015 #71

Well, I suppose my risk would depend... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #73

The oldest existing revolver was manufactured in 1597... MohRokTah Dec 2015 #43

Then it belongs in a museum. tabasco Dec 2015 #59

Just like a grabber, go for it all. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #65

Someone post a list of mass murders that a bolt, lever doc03 Dec 2015 #42

Aurora, Colorado theater shooting. Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #45

Charles Whitman killed 17 in his University of Texas at Austin murder spree. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #51

Lets see from what I have heard there have been 355 of doc03 Dec 2015 #70

Aurora was a semi-auto rifle. tabasco Dec 2015 #66

The Aurora shooter's drum magazine jammed after just a few shots. Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #74

Sites I looked at say "several rounds" fired before the jam. tabasco Dec 2015 #97

Well, then I've heard people say he killed more with the shotgun Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #103

I agree treestar Dec 2015 #50

My AR-10 isn't for self defense, GGJohn Dec 2015 #67

223 upper on an ar-10 how does that work? what mags are you using? SpookyDem Dec 2015 #104

The upper was custom made by a gunsmith friend of mine as were 2 mags. GGJohn Dec 2015 #105

Sounds pretty interesting does it use standard ar15 bolt or modified ar-10 SpookyDem Dec 2015 #108

Good question, GGJohn Dec 2015 #110

Convince 218 members of the House, 60 Senators, and 3/4 of the states and you can ban them. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #68

How does the government restrict full autos then, don't see people carrying doc03 Dec 2015 #72

Almost entirely because there is little desire for people to own them. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #75

The technology is not ubiquitous. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #78

People also seem to forget that automatic weapons as also generally legal, branford Dec 2015 #88

Firearms can be regulated, nobody here is saying that they can't, GGJohn Dec 2015 #81

Full automatic weapons have never been in widespread legal use. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #106

Actually, it would be 2/3rd's of the Congress, GGJohn Dec 2015 #76

D'OH! 290 members of the House and 67 Senators. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #79

Funny how full auto got banned w/o an amendment, right? tabasco Dec 2015 #98

The technology was never ubiquitous. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #99

Handgun and semi-auto crime are ubiquitous, as well. tabasco Dec 2015 #100

Laugh all you want, your proposed ban is unconstitutional. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #101

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #77

What is dangerous about not allowing "Assault Rifles and Semi Auto Hand guns"? uppityperson Dec 2015 #83

New assault rifles have been banned for sale to civilians since 1986, GGJohn Dec 2015 #84

Peach, but mostly cheesecake. uppityperson Dec 2015 #85

I don't even know what that means. GGJohn Dec 2015 #86

oh, I'm sorry. I thought you asked me what kind of pie I liked. nt uppityperson Dec 2015 #92

Whaaaa? eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #102

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #87

I had a young man tell me last night he had his gun for protection and to take on the Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #80

I can't think of a single remotely plausible scenario... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #90

Given the results from Vietnam and Iraq, Guerilla warfare is a significant weakeness. NutmegYankee Dec 2015 #109

He is thinking with his gun rather than his noodle. He wasn't old enough for Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #112

I think most people who bring up the military power didn't get that training either. NutmegYankee Dec 2015 #113

Legally, such a confiscation would require financial compensation for the guns NickB79 Dec 2015 #93

You simply need to learn how to live with your... virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #96

This is a rabbit hole, down which we should not slide. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #107

Now that's progressive... ileus Dec 2015 #111