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krispos42

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103. And this goes exactly to a point I've made before

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:50 PM

Dec 2015

A daily, hourly DEMAND that people provide proof of something to put them on the defensive. The threat is that if you can't justify it, then you will take it away from other people.

You're being very conservative on this issue in that you think you can stand in the way of progress and technical development. You seem to think you can just "lock" firearms technology at 1915 levels. You know, the "good old days". Your side tried it with various "assault weapons bans" to limit things like protruding pistol grips. and it failed to do anything except a) boost gun sales, and b) get Republicans in office.

You seem to think that shooting a gun should be a difficult, painful, and slow process and that you can somehow lock those features into guns for all eternity. You seem to think that there will be no technical progress, no further development, nothing.

How about a pump-action AR-15? They have those now. Takes all the same parts (except the few that turn it from a gas-action semiautomatic to a manual-action pump) including barrels, triggers, stocks, grips, rails, optics, magazines, etc.

Do you call that progress? Do you really thing that will impede terrorists or nutcases? How many more decades of Republican rule are you willing to accept to achieve your goals?

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OK Gunners, why do you need a semi auto weapon. [View all] boston bean Dec 2015 OP

Because it's easier to catch deer and duck Renew Deal Dec 2015 #1

They can't live without them because of that? boston bean Dec 2015 #2

Yes. Let me send you a machine gun duck recipe. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #4

Only three rounds allowed safeinOhio Dec 2015 #23

I've harvested more than 30 deer in my lifetime. Only once did I fire more than one round. Scuba Dec 2015 #8

I would love to trade some venison recipes with you. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #25

Simple: Young deer, prepare as you would lean beef. Old deer, slice thin and stir fry. Scuba Dec 2015 #92

Thanks, knew about young deer vs older deer, GGJohn Dec 2015 #96

Anyone that needs lots of bullets fast safeinOhio Dec 2015 #28

Can I do it with TNT? GGJohn Dec 2015 #31

Mine are Brook Trout. safeinOhio Dec 2015 #95

Are those much different from the Rainbow Trout? eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #98

The meat is almost red and very sweet safeinOhio Dec 2015 #99

Isn't the sport part of it ? treestar Dec 2015 #70

If you get really mad and have a large family, it's more efficient. onehandle Dec 2015 #3

Guns have only one purpose. Death Renew Deal Dec 2015 #7

And co-workers. librarylu Dec 2015 #58

I don't believe the owners of semi auto weapons need them to use them as much no_hypocrisy Dec 2015 #5

there is no department of need Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #6

You clearly don't know what a weapon is. onehandle Dec 2015 #9

I do Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #18

How come you dont 'want your own suitcase nuke? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #51

I do not think Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #53

Guns have one purpose. Death Renew Deal Dec 2015 #11

mine must all be broken Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #17

So obviously not what the OP asked about. Thor_MN Dec 2015 #30

the same reason I need my bolt action rifles Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #32

Thank you for answering. Thor_MN Dec 2015 #39

true I do not need anything more than food and water Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #42

Back to the distractions... Thor_MN Dec 2015 #43

yes truth is a distraction Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #46

Oh FFS, you can't be real. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #84

Not weapons. For fucks sake don't act like an idiot. morningfog Dec 2015 #89

I could live without them...but why. ileus Dec 2015 #10

Have you ever fired a gun to protect your family? BeyondGeography Dec 2015 #29

I have not Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #35

What Jim Jefferies said is true. Your only argument for having a gun is MillennialDem Dec 2015 #49

I own a legal product Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #52

Disregards what I said. Again, guns are for MOST just about an inflated sense of self MillennialDem Dec 2015 #54

opinions like yours Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #55

Nice ad hom. Guess I struck a nerve. MillennialDem Dec 2015 #56

nope not at all just pointing out Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #59

No, I'm not. You just have no good response because you know I got you. MillennialDem Dec 2015 #60

how, by spouting some statistic Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #61

That nerve will feel better tomorrow. Sorry. MillennialDem Dec 2015 #64

what nerve, I feel great now Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #65

Awww, can't refute my argument still. Just claim "it's bullshit". I'm sure they'll find it all kinds MillennialDem Dec 2015 #67

how can I refute an argument Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #68

No, I asked why do so few gunners have any kind of panic room, even a homemade one? MillennialDem Dec 2015 #69

I have no idea Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #72

I didn't say good safe room. I said any safe room. I've heard numerous people say they have MillennialDem Dec 2015 #76

I call you out on that my friend Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #79

Maybe $1,000 for a security door and essentially free for some sandbags or other junk - old broken MillennialDem Dec 2015 #81

"Never once heard one say they have a panic room." EX500rider Dec 2015 #90

1. Defensive position to shoot said lowlife. 2. Not required one needs to get to the other room, it' MillennialDem Dec 2015 #97

How about some links to back up that argument? GGJohn Dec 2015 #71

now he or she is moving the goalposts Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #74

Yeah if really afraid of treestar Dec 2015 #73

These gun nuts are going to turn this country into a place where every home needs one. boston bean Dec 2015 #77

and every school building treestar Dec 2015 #101

planned parenthood already has them. boston bean Dec 2015 #102

+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #85

Glad you are happy with all your gunz, oblivious to the harm to society. Hoyt Dec 2015 #48

OK boston bean, why do you need another anti-gun vanity thread. EL34x4 Dec 2015 #12

No vanity. It's another angle. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #13

With every single "point" they try to make, it brings up another very boston bean Dec 2015 #15

Hm Recursion Dec 2015 #21

I didn't realize FR had exclusive use EL34x4 Dec 2015 #24

I thought this was an Internet term, but this is what I got Renew Deal Dec 2015 #26

Isolates a different issue treestar Dec 2015 #75

Grow up. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #86

Personally, I chose them for ease of use, speed, functionality jmg257 Dec 2015 #14

100,000,000+ @ $500 (ave) is certainly one motivation pipoman Dec 2015 #16

For the most part that's all that's manufactured nowadays Recursion Dec 2015 #19

I think you are barking up the wrong tree by going after semi-automatics. dawg Dec 2015 #20

Assuming we're talking about legitimate use of a firearm COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #22

Translation: semi-auto == more death and distruction. longship Dec 2015 #33

Brilliant. Do you write for a living? COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #34

I have in the past. But my forte is math, not writing. longship Dec 2015 #38

Stick with teaching math. COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #40

I will stand by my translation my friend. longship Dec 2015 #47

BTW, my best friend, a long time hunter, says this about your topic. longship Dec 2015 #50

of course the 2nd amendment Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #63

You are right. longship Dec 2015 #93

If your friend is so good, ... Straw Man Dec 2015 #111

In theory that's correct. But even the best hunters COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #116

Prior to the Assault Weapon Ban of 1994, the semi-automatic weapons that look... MohRokTah Dec 2015 #27

of course over the last 30+ years Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #36

Prior military were the primary drivers in the widespread purchases after the sunset of the ban. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #44

The "in common use for lawful purposes" SCOTUS standard pipoman Dec 2015 #109

Light weight, low recoil, ergonomic, accurate hack89 Dec 2015 #37

When quail flush they fly fast and unpredictably Shrek Dec 2015 #41

My standard is that if civilian police can have them then NICS checked nonLEO civilians should too aikoaiko Dec 2015 #45

This Citizen Suspects That Gun Orgasm Is Much More Intense When Discharging A Full Load cantbeserious Dec 2015 #57

They do not. Ban them all. PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #62

always nice to dream Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #66

Higher rate of fire? Facility Inspector Dec 2015 #78

I can only tell you what my son answered when I asked the same question.... napi21 Dec 2015 #80

Well Elmergantry Dec 2015 #82

Yep .... it really helps to up the body count when the previous good guy with a gun ... etherealtruth Dec 2015 #83

And your point is? Elmergantry Dec 2015 #104

I was validating your point etherealtruth Dec 2015 #105

Ok. Glad you agree with me. nt Elmergantry Dec 2015 #106

They dont. No reason is good enough. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #87

Because then you'll be asking "Why do you need a bolt action, just use a muzzle loader" Kurska Dec 2015 #88

Nothing but the delusion of being tough. They are pathetic. morningfog Dec 2015 #91

so is that all firearms owners? Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #94

Let's say Russia attacks us full force Reter Dec 2015 #100

And this goes exactly to a point I've made before krispos42 Dec 2015 #103

Well said: Elmergantry Dec 2015 #107

Semi auto weapons sarisataka Dec 2015 #108

Ignorant and emotional OP that solves nothing and creates zero conversation nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #110

Maybe I just want one. Throd Dec 2015 #112

Seimi-auto weapons have in public circulation Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #113

I don't expect that I'll ever nedd to use my guns in earnest. Adrahil Dec 2015 #114

Because bolt action and break action firearms... beevul Dec 2015 #115

Make sure you give it a pet name... Elmergantry Dec 2015 #117

If I ever do, I'll be sure to... beevul Dec 2015 #118

perfect! Elmergantry Dec 2015 #119