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Straw Man

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111. If your friend is so good, ...

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:54 PM

Dec 2015

BTW, my best friend, a long time hunter, says this about your topic.

If you cannot drop a deer in one shot, you are doing it wrong. A bolt action is all one needs.

... why does he need a bolt action? It's a repeater, after all. A Ruger #1 single-shot should be more than enough.

In a sense he's right -- in a perfect world, one shot should do it. However, if that first shot doesn't put the deer down immediately, the humane thing is to deliver a follow-up as quickly as possible.

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OK Gunners, why do you need a semi auto weapon. [View all] boston bean Dec 2015 OP

Because it's easier to catch deer and duck Renew Deal Dec 2015 #1

They can't live without them because of that? boston bean Dec 2015 #2

Yes. Let me send you a machine gun duck recipe. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #4

Only three rounds allowed safeinOhio Dec 2015 #23

I've harvested more than 30 deer in my lifetime. Only once did I fire more than one round. Scuba Dec 2015 #8

I would love to trade some venison recipes with you. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #25

Simple: Young deer, prepare as you would lean beef. Old deer, slice thin and stir fry. Scuba Dec 2015 #92

Thanks, knew about young deer vs older deer, GGJohn Dec 2015 #96

Anyone that needs lots of bullets fast safeinOhio Dec 2015 #28

Can I do it with TNT? GGJohn Dec 2015 #31

Mine are Brook Trout. safeinOhio Dec 2015 #95

Are those much different from the Rainbow Trout? eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #98

The meat is almost red and very sweet safeinOhio Dec 2015 #99

Isn't the sport part of it ? treestar Dec 2015 #70

If you get really mad and have a large family, it's more efficient. onehandle Dec 2015 #3

Guns have only one purpose. Death Renew Deal Dec 2015 #7

And co-workers. librarylu Dec 2015 #58

I don't believe the owners of semi auto weapons need them to use them as much no_hypocrisy Dec 2015 #5

there is no department of need Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #6

You clearly don't know what a weapon is. onehandle Dec 2015 #9

I do Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #18

How come you dont 'want your own suitcase nuke? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #51

I do not think Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #53

Guns have one purpose. Death Renew Deal Dec 2015 #11

mine must all be broken Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #17

So obviously not what the OP asked about. Thor_MN Dec 2015 #30

the same reason I need my bolt action rifles Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #32

Thank you for answering. Thor_MN Dec 2015 #39

true I do not need anything more than food and water Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #42

Back to the distractions... Thor_MN Dec 2015 #43

yes truth is a distraction Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #46

Oh FFS, you can't be real. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #84

Not weapons. For fucks sake don't act like an idiot. morningfog Dec 2015 #89

I could live without them...but why. ileus Dec 2015 #10

Have you ever fired a gun to protect your family? BeyondGeography Dec 2015 #29

I have not Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #35

What Jim Jefferies said is true. Your only argument for having a gun is MillennialDem Dec 2015 #49

I own a legal product Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #52

Disregards what I said. Again, guns are for MOST just about an inflated sense of self MillennialDem Dec 2015 #54

opinions like yours Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #55

Nice ad hom. Guess I struck a nerve. MillennialDem Dec 2015 #56

nope not at all just pointing out Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #59

No, I'm not. You just have no good response because you know I got you. MillennialDem Dec 2015 #60

how, by spouting some statistic Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #61

That nerve will feel better tomorrow. Sorry. MillennialDem Dec 2015 #64

what nerve, I feel great now Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #65

Awww, can't refute my argument still. Just claim "it's bullshit". I'm sure they'll find it all kinds MillennialDem Dec 2015 #67

how can I refute an argument Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #68

No, I asked why do so few gunners have any kind of panic room, even a homemade one? MillennialDem Dec 2015 #69

I have no idea Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #72

I didn't say good safe room. I said any safe room. I've heard numerous people say they have MillennialDem Dec 2015 #76

I call you out on that my friend Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #79

Maybe $1,000 for a security door and essentially free for some sandbags or other junk - old broken MillennialDem Dec 2015 #81

"Never once heard one say they have a panic room." EX500rider Dec 2015 #90

1. Defensive position to shoot said lowlife. 2. Not required one needs to get to the other room, it' MillennialDem Dec 2015 #97

How about some links to back up that argument? GGJohn Dec 2015 #71

now he or she is moving the goalposts Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #74

Yeah if really afraid of treestar Dec 2015 #73

These gun nuts are going to turn this country into a place where every home needs one. boston bean Dec 2015 #77

and every school building treestar Dec 2015 #101

planned parenthood already has them. boston bean Dec 2015 #102

+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #85

Glad you are happy with all your gunz, oblivious to the harm to society. Hoyt Dec 2015 #48

OK boston bean, why do you need another anti-gun vanity thread. EL34x4 Dec 2015 #12

No vanity. It's another angle. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #13

With every single "point" they try to make, it brings up another very boston bean Dec 2015 #15

Hm Recursion Dec 2015 #21

I didn't realize FR had exclusive use EL34x4 Dec 2015 #24

I thought this was an Internet term, but this is what I got Renew Deal Dec 2015 #26

Isolates a different issue treestar Dec 2015 #75

Grow up. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #86

Personally, I chose them for ease of use, speed, functionality jmg257 Dec 2015 #14

100,000,000+ @ $500 (ave) is certainly one motivation pipoman Dec 2015 #16

For the most part that's all that's manufactured nowadays Recursion Dec 2015 #19

I think you are barking up the wrong tree by going after semi-automatics. dawg Dec 2015 #20

Assuming we're talking about legitimate use of a firearm COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #22

Translation: semi-auto == more death and distruction. longship Dec 2015 #33

Brilliant. Do you write for a living? COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #34

I have in the past. But my forte is math, not writing. longship Dec 2015 #38

Stick with teaching math. COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #40

I will stand by my translation my friend. longship Dec 2015 #47

BTW, my best friend, a long time hunter, says this about your topic. longship Dec 2015 #50

of course the 2nd amendment Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #63

You are right. longship Dec 2015 #93

If your friend is so good, ... Straw Man Dec 2015 #111

In theory that's correct. But even the best hunters COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #116

Prior to the Assault Weapon Ban of 1994, the semi-automatic weapons that look... MohRokTah Dec 2015 #27

of course over the last 30+ years Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #36

Prior military were the primary drivers in the widespread purchases after the sunset of the ban. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #44

The "in common use for lawful purposes" SCOTUS standard pipoman Dec 2015 #109

Light weight, low recoil, ergonomic, accurate hack89 Dec 2015 #37

When quail flush they fly fast and unpredictably Shrek Dec 2015 #41

My standard is that if civilian police can have them then NICS checked nonLEO civilians should too aikoaiko Dec 2015 #45

This Citizen Suspects That Gun Orgasm Is Much More Intense When Discharging A Full Load cantbeserious Dec 2015 #57

They do not. Ban them all. PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #62

always nice to dream Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #66

Higher rate of fire? Facility Inspector Dec 2015 #78

I can only tell you what my son answered when I asked the same question.... napi21 Dec 2015 #80

Well Elmergantry Dec 2015 #82

Yep .... it really helps to up the body count when the previous good guy with a gun ... etherealtruth Dec 2015 #83

And your point is? Elmergantry Dec 2015 #104

I was validating your point etherealtruth Dec 2015 #105

Ok. Glad you agree with me. nt Elmergantry Dec 2015 #106

They dont. No reason is good enough. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #87

Because then you'll be asking "Why do you need a bolt action, just use a muzzle loader" Kurska Dec 2015 #88

Nothing but the delusion of being tough. They are pathetic. morningfog Dec 2015 #91

so is that all firearms owners? Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #94

Let's say Russia attacks us full force Reter Dec 2015 #100

And this goes exactly to a point I've made before krispos42 Dec 2015 #103

Well said: Elmergantry Dec 2015 #107

Semi auto weapons sarisataka Dec 2015 #108

Ignorant and emotional OP that solves nothing and creates zero conversation nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #110

Maybe I just want one. Throd Dec 2015 #112

Seimi-auto weapons have in public circulation Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #113

I don't expect that I'll ever nedd to use my guns in earnest. Adrahil Dec 2015 #114

Because bolt action and break action firearms... beevul Dec 2015 #115

Make sure you give it a pet name... Elmergantry Dec 2015 #117

If I ever do, I'll be sure to... beevul Dec 2015 #118

perfect! Elmergantry Dec 2015 #119