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angrychair

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53. Do. Not. Care.

Reply to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:05 PM

Dec 2015

We have tried it your way VM, the do nothing, pray for the victims, buy more guns bullshit for decades.
Cars kill people. We mitigate that risk by requiring seatbelts, insurance and airbags among hundreds of other safety features. We do this to make a product that was created for transportation of people and goods.We do almost nothing to control and mitigate risk for a product that was created for the sole purpose to kill. For good or bad reasons, the firearm was not created for target practice or as custom jewelry to wear around your hip. It was created to kill.

No other constitutional freedom is treated with so little legal underpinnings to balance the right given against the greater good.
The freedom of speech doesnt give me the right to yell "fire" in a movie theater if there is no fire.
Why does the right to own a weapon translate into your right to shoot and kill me because you think I might hurt you?

Me and billions of human beings, manage to go our whole lives never needing or wanting a gun.
Grow up and realize the world around you is not a "B" western.

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Well all the talk has made it too the NRA... [View all] virginia mountainman Dec 2015 OP

NRA Cheerleading for Republicans at Democratic Underground. onehandle Dec 2015 #1

Oh for crying out loud! leftofcool Dec 2015 #2

Except we're not just talking about "simple background checks." branford Dec 2015 #13

I don't give a fuck what the NRA thinks! leftofcool Dec 2015 #22

But you better give a fuck what the general public does... virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #25

The general public is not the nra rockfordfile Dec 2015 #29

No shit. GGJohn Dec 2015 #33

Not all firearm owners care what the nra has to say. rockfordfile Dec 2015 #50

80-100 million firearm owners in this country, GGJohn Dec 2015 #55

In Minnesota, a lightweight republican Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #118

I own STANDARD guns - Low bullet load and shoulder fire rifles. Jim Beard Dec 2015 #157

Not according to Pres. Clinton. GGJohn Dec 2015 #160

BTW, that "Intelligent god and guns Texas district" later elected Steve Stockman. Jim Beard Dec 2015 #166

Yes, and I'm one of them. None of mine MineralMan Dec 2015 #203

I'm not attempting to influence anyones vote, GGJohn Dec 2015 #204

Here's the deal: Get busy with GOTV work to get more Democrats MineralMan Dec 2015 #205

Agree with just about every thing you say here, GGJohn Dec 2015 #207

Why don't you stand up in your area of the country and say you've seen the ight and will destroy you Hoyt Dec 2015 #136

My firearms have never injured another human being, so I think I'll pass on your GGJohn Dec 2015 #141

Your beliefs on gunz and gunners have hurt people. Folks like you sponsored Zman Hoyt Dec 2015 #155

LOL. GGJohn Dec 2015 #158

Conservatives are on the wrong side of this as they Jim Beard Dec 2015 #170

Yet they keep winning elections, GGJohn Dec 2015 #172

And here you are again! CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #165

And here you are also, GGJohn Dec 2015 #171

That would be like getting into a butt kicking match with a one legged man CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #198

You only have one leg? GGJohn Dec 2015 #199

You (and I) don't necessarily matter. branford Dec 2015 #47

yeah the nra is employing a terrorist tactic rockfordfile Dec 2015 #52

What?!? HOW?!!? virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #54

So if I post what the NYT wrote today, GGJohn Dec 2015 #56

You're hatred of the NRA does not change the political realty (nor their rights under the 1A). branford Dec 2015 #60

yep, hit the nail on the head with that one. EOM virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #79

...+1 840high Dec 2015 #113

how? Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #66

I don't care what the right wing extremist group like the nra says rockfordfile Dec 2015 #26

Why do people need fucking assault weapons? 6000eliot Dec 2015 #77

What you feel people "need" is irrelevant. branford Dec 2015 #94

It's not up to you to decide what I need or want. GGJohn Dec 2015 #101

You mean a landslide for Donald Trump. Jim Beard Dec 2015 #159

Last time I looked, the voter turnout for the cities are not as great as the urban GGJohn Dec 2015 #161

what's an assault weapon Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #102

left, have you noticed that the controller/banners are now talking "confiscation"... Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #36

Yep, EOM..... virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #61

exactly - there are no more whiny, scared, emotional hypocrites than the nra. patsimp Dec 2015 #182

Well the important thing is that people talked tough and ruffled gun owners. linuxman Dec 2015 #3

Don't give a fuck. Chan790 Dec 2015 #6

Lol, clearly. linuxman Dec 2015 #8

Ok, you want to be a regional party? virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #9

We know you don't. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #24

"Non-reversible action?" What the heck does that mean? branford Dec 2015 #31

Holding offices is meaningless if we don't do something with them when we have them. Chan790 Dec 2015 #48

Yeah, great fucking strategy, GGJohn Dec 2015 #63

You do realize in the last election cycle. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #64

Your "we" is far smaller and far less motivated to vote on the issue that you want and suggest. branford Dec 2015 #74

That add isn't even a rebuttal.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #39

Maybe not the right word, linuxman Dec 2015 #68

Actually I misplaced a post... virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #73

Oh, NO! The NRA found out that some people don't like weekly massacres! We're in TROUBLE! Squinch Dec 2015 #4

This is an example of the NRA pushing the confication. It is one of their Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #5

How is it a scare tactic? virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #7

and many here Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #11

Are you thinking they are going yo confiscated your guns. If this is an ad Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #14

But, you fail to grasp.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #23

I looked at the photo provided in the OP, it is an ad, has NRS at the bottom Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #75

Ahh.... NO they did not pay NYT, please read this link to the NYT, so you can read it for yourself.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #78

Your link is an editorial, I read it and at the top it said editorial. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #87

So what? It is the opinion of the editorial board, apparently. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #142

It's a big deal, GGJohn Dec 2015 #149

I am in full agreement with you. I was pointing out that it being an editorial JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #153

Ahh, my bad. GGJohn Dec 2015 #163

The nra is nothing more now but a far right extremist group. rockfordfile Dec 2015 #32

What you're failing to grasp is the NRA is just repeating GGJohn Dec 2015 #38

They are still a right wing extremist group. rockfordfile Dec 2015 #59

I never said otherwise, but that doesn't change the fact that this isn't an NRA GGJohn Dec 2015 #69

An editorial. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #90

It doesn't matter, GGJohn Dec 2015 #93

See, just more scare tactics. What I did not see was a suggestion for a solution, wonder why Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #98

What scare tactics? GGJohn Dec 2015 #104

The NYT is considered by some to be the foremost newspaper in the world, branford Dec 2015 #99

I could write an editorial. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #106

I think you're missing the point. branford Dec 2015 #112

Then... THEN they'll only be left with THE LEAST POPULAR FIREARMS!!!!!!!! LiberalElite Dec 2015 #10

One or two more attacks on Innocent people canosoviejo Dec 2015 #12

Yep. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #17

It's Democratic party rockfordfile Dec 2015 #35

it's "democratic" Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #41

LOL, DEMOCRAT PARTY Skittles Dec 2015 #95

Hey NRA ...yes, from your cold dead hands if you so desire 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #15

Yep Regional party.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #57

Why post right wing NRA trash here? etherealtruth Dec 2015 #16

The fucking NY Times said exactly what the NRA is reporting, GGJohn Dec 2015 #21

The NRA is right wing trash etherealtruth Dec 2015 #34

Yes they are, GGJohn Dec 2015 #42

My objection is the meme (from the NRA) etherealtruth Dec 2015 #67

I loath the NRA and it's board members, GGJohn Dec 2015 #108

Who will you vote for in 2016? rockfordfile Dec 2015 #40

What the fuck does that have to do with this thread, GGJohn Dec 2015 #46

who will you vote for in 2016 Presidential election? rockfordfile Dec 2015 #65

Are you failing to see? GGJohn Dec 2015 #70

etheral, are you saying the NYT is "trash?" I'm surprised. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #28

No I am saying the NRA is right wing trash and has NO plce here etherealtruth Dec 2015 #30

Everbody at some time links, quotes, cites RW trash... Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #80

Fuck the NRA and their congressional supporters. onecaliberal Dec 2015 #18

AND their DU supporters Skittles Dec 2015 #116

+1 Hong Kong Cavalier Dec 2015 #131

Skittles, as always, hits the nail on the head. Squinch Dec 2015 #208

"Confiscation"? Bullshit. yallerdawg Dec 2015 #19

From your link.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #27

So you agree that the nra hates Americans rockfordfile Dec 2015 #43

uhh....what? virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #51

The nra doesn't want anything done rockfordfile Dec 2015 #72

Then why do they win virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #76

because fear is easier to instill into very stupid people Skittles Dec 2015 #81

yea, look at all the confiscation talk around here lately..SHEESH.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #85

there's always extremists Skittles Dec 2015 #86

Extremists? branford Dec 2015 #107

yep, confiscation Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #44

Where is "confiscation"? yallerdawg Dec 2015 #91

and when nobody "gives" them up? Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #100

REALLY????????? I MEAN REALLY????????????????????? virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #103

This is the New York Times editorial page! yallerdawg Dec 2015 #110

Sigh... branford Dec 2015 #115

Maybe you missed the word "require" to give them up. GGJohn Dec 2015 #111

Combat weapons used to commit mass murder - no problem. yallerdawg Dec 2015 #114

These are not combat weapons, GGJohn Dec 2015 #124

none of my AR pattern weapons Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #127

Your saying you have the assault weapons... yallerdawg Dec 2015 #167

those are not assault weapons as they Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #197

FUCK the nra spanone Dec 2015 #20

"No one's trying to take your guns away." Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #62

like i said FUCK the nra spanone Dec 2015 #71

With erudite political commentary like that, I cannot fathom why gun control is a political loser? branford Dec 2015 #84

last time i'm saying it FUCK THE NRA. got it? spanone Dec 2015 #109

Oh, I got, and so do a lot of other voters across the country. branford Dec 2015 #119

with the nra owning most of our congress critters, you have nothing to worry about spanone Dec 2015 #138

Proved they are right about what? Nt NCTraveler Dec 2015 #37

They years of "they are coming after your guns"... virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #49

I don't know about you, but I saw this coming. beevul Dec 2015 #45

Do. Not. Care. angrychair Dec 2015 #53

No you never tried it my way... virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #58

Maybe you have ideas angrychair Dec 2015 #89

gun humpers are the last people who should have guns Skittles Dec 2015 #92

But now if you had a gun... yallerdawg Dec 2015 #96

The NRA refuses everything Jim Beard Dec 2015 #177

You need to be careful who you play hardball with.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #178

You damn well better care, GGJohn Dec 2015 #83

Ban all guns! n/t PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #82

Fuck the NRA. DLevine Dec 2015 #88

They're NOT saying this GGJohn Dec 2015 #123

The NRA is spinning this. DLevine Dec 2015 #129

I recommend bookmarking this thread... beevul Dec 2015 #97

Yep...EOM virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #105

and they call Republicans the stupid party... Angel Martin Dec 2015 #145

Because a few gun nuts are going to swing the election. 6000eliot Dec 2015 #150

I strongly urge you to remember what happened in 94. GGJohn Dec 2015 #151

Like chicken-shit Congresspeople and the media, 6000eliot Dec 2015 #152

You are aware that this last election, 90% of NRA backed candidates won their races, GGJohn Dec 2015 #154

In an election that was expected to swing Right in RW areas. Yes. 6000eliot Dec 2015 #156

Are these Carl Roves figures? Jim Beard Dec 2015 #173

Ummm, no, GGJohn Dec 2015 #175

Why don't you closely look at those numbers you keep spouting off rufus dog Dec 2015 #194

like the guy in the hbo show lancer78 Dec 2015 #188

Gee, that's so sad that the NRA members are soiling their camouflage undies. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #117

Yea, that will show them, they won't even show up to vote now will they. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #120

Will they still be throwing a tantrum? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #121

Why would they throw a tantrum.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #132

Can you keep your guns, but drop your support of NRA? likesmountains 52 Dec 2015 #140

I don't support them. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #143

ok, but you seem to be pretty supportive in this thread.. likesmountains 52 Dec 2015 #147

The no fly list is a bullshit reason to stop the purchase of a firearm. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #162

you're right, let's just do nothing. likesmountains 52 Dec 2015 #168

the proposed lancer78 Dec 2015 #189

The no fly list? virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #164

ok, yes..don't want to upset anyone! likesmountains 52 Dec 2015 #169

Do you honestly believe that advocacy of an effective gun confiscation policy branford Dec 2015 #125

We "elitists" also vote. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #126

But do you live in purple and semi-rural state? sadoldgirl Dec 2015 #128

I live in a semi-rural area of a blue state. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #195

I'm aware of voting patterns. branford Dec 2015 #148

I have warned of this before, but got the cold sadoldgirl Dec 2015 #122

You gunners are the ones playing into their bloody hands, period. Hoyt Dec 2015 #130

Look I hate guns, but in my state ,which is purple, sadoldgirl Dec 2015 #134

Then we need to encourage Democratic gun fancier-- not a big crowd in my opinion -- to do the right Hoyt Dec 2015 #139

Nobody cares what you think is ok, GGJohn Dec 2015 #144

I agree with you, and this is where Bernie is sadoldgirl Dec 2015 #146

A perfect example is the recent gubernatorial election win of Democrat Jon Bel Edwards in LA. branford Dec 2015 #180

I no longer give a rat's ass what the NRA thinks about anything. grntuscarora Dec 2015 #133

I think you are your ilk proved gun controllers right about the weapons and NRA Renew Deal Dec 2015 #135

Confiscation IS what we need. Why not say it? Fuck the gun lovers. bowens43 Dec 2015 #137

"(T)ake them by any means necessary" Let us know when you and/or your kids volunteer... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #176

On their email alert list I assume?? Nt Logical Dec 2015 #174

To vs. too Photographer Dec 2015 #179

has the nra agreed to allow people to walk into their offices with loaded guns and whatever else the patsimp Dec 2015 #181

You can indeed carry firearms at the NRA headquarters, branford Dec 2015 #184

thanks for the links - however patsimp Dec 2015 #187

Sigh... branford Dec 2015 #190

Good post. The NRA has helped many Republicans get elected to Congress over the last 35 years. Major Hogwash Dec 2015 #183

The NRA has also supported a number of Democrats over the years. branford Dec 2015 #185

In 2000, Bush the Lesser was selected by the U.S. Supreme Court. krispos42 Dec 2015 #186

unfortunately for some, history began yesterday. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #191

unrec... G_j Dec 2015 #192

Boy howdy...the article talks about "those kind" "Certain kinds of weapons".... chowder66 Dec 2015 #193

Ban every last one mwrguy Dec 2015 #196

What? Good. Let them worry. MineralMan Dec 2015 #200

Well, I don't know, but it seems like you're bringing MineralMan Dec 2015 #201

Many people maintain the courage of their convictions regardless LanternWaste Dec 2015 #202

So in your mind we never do anything to upset your favorite group because... Logical Dec 2015 #206