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angrychair

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89. Maybe you have ideas

Reply to virginia mountainman (Reply #58)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:30 PM

Dec 2015

Maybe some see those ideas as reasonable.

Nothing will change the fact that when people like you walk around with a gun, in a public space, you are asking me to trust you, a stranger, that you won't kill me or someone I care about with it. That is a hell of a lot of trust. You can spare me the license and safety course as that does little to mitigate the risk I am beingcasked to have in stranger. A hard lesson on trust gone bad that mother of that 7 year old learned about recently.
I don't want to have to constantly have to wonder if that asshole walking into taco bell with a gun on his hip and a rifle over his shoulder is here to kill everyone or just a burrito. Or that if I look at him "funny" he won't decide to "fear for his life" and kill me.

That is a very tough sell.

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Well all the talk has made it too the NRA... [View all] virginia mountainman Dec 2015 OP

NRA Cheerleading for Republicans at Democratic Underground. onehandle Dec 2015 #1

Oh for crying out loud! leftofcool Dec 2015 #2

Except we're not just talking about "simple background checks." branford Dec 2015 #13

I don't give a fuck what the NRA thinks! leftofcool Dec 2015 #22

But you better give a fuck what the general public does... virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #25

The general public is not the nra rockfordfile Dec 2015 #29

No shit. GGJohn Dec 2015 #33

Not all firearm owners care what the nra has to say. rockfordfile Dec 2015 #50

80-100 million firearm owners in this country, GGJohn Dec 2015 #55

In Minnesota, a lightweight republican Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #118

I own STANDARD guns - Low bullet load and shoulder fire rifles. Jim Beard Dec 2015 #157

Not according to Pres. Clinton. GGJohn Dec 2015 #160

BTW, that "Intelligent god and guns Texas district" later elected Steve Stockman. Jim Beard Dec 2015 #166

Yes, and I'm one of them. None of mine MineralMan Dec 2015 #203

I'm not attempting to influence anyones vote, GGJohn Dec 2015 #204

Here's the deal: Get busy with GOTV work to get more Democrats MineralMan Dec 2015 #205

Agree with just about every thing you say here, GGJohn Dec 2015 #207

Why don't you stand up in your area of the country and say you've seen the ight and will destroy you Hoyt Dec 2015 #136

My firearms have never injured another human being, so I think I'll pass on your GGJohn Dec 2015 #141

Your beliefs on gunz and gunners have hurt people. Folks like you sponsored Zman Hoyt Dec 2015 #155

LOL. GGJohn Dec 2015 #158

Conservatives are on the wrong side of this as they Jim Beard Dec 2015 #170

Yet they keep winning elections, GGJohn Dec 2015 #172

And here you are again! CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #165

And here you are also, GGJohn Dec 2015 #171

That would be like getting into a butt kicking match with a one legged man CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #198

You only have one leg? GGJohn Dec 2015 #199

You (and I) don't necessarily matter. branford Dec 2015 #47

yeah the nra is employing a terrorist tactic rockfordfile Dec 2015 #52

What?!? HOW?!!? virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #54

So if I post what the NYT wrote today, GGJohn Dec 2015 #56

You're hatred of the NRA does not change the political realty (nor their rights under the 1A). branford Dec 2015 #60

yep, hit the nail on the head with that one. EOM virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #79

...+1 840high Dec 2015 #113

how? Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #66

I don't care what the right wing extremist group like the nra says rockfordfile Dec 2015 #26

Why do people need fucking assault weapons? 6000eliot Dec 2015 #77

What you feel people "need" is irrelevant. branford Dec 2015 #94

It's not up to you to decide what I need or want. GGJohn Dec 2015 #101

You mean a landslide for Donald Trump. Jim Beard Dec 2015 #159

Last time I looked, the voter turnout for the cities are not as great as the urban GGJohn Dec 2015 #161

what's an assault weapon Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #102

left, have you noticed that the controller/banners are now talking "confiscation"... Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #36

Yep, EOM..... virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #61

exactly - there are no more whiny, scared, emotional hypocrites than the nra. patsimp Dec 2015 #182

Well the important thing is that people talked tough and ruffled gun owners. linuxman Dec 2015 #3

Don't give a fuck. Chan790 Dec 2015 #6

Lol, clearly. linuxman Dec 2015 #8

Ok, you want to be a regional party? virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #9

We know you don't. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #24

"Non-reversible action?" What the heck does that mean? branford Dec 2015 #31

Holding offices is meaningless if we don't do something with them when we have them. Chan790 Dec 2015 #48

Yeah, great fucking strategy, GGJohn Dec 2015 #63

You do realize in the last election cycle. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #64

Your "we" is far smaller and far less motivated to vote on the issue that you want and suggest. branford Dec 2015 #74

That add isn't even a rebuttal.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #39

Maybe not the right word, linuxman Dec 2015 #68

Actually I misplaced a post... virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #73

Oh, NO! The NRA found out that some people don't like weekly massacres! We're in TROUBLE! Squinch Dec 2015 #4

This is an example of the NRA pushing the confication. It is one of their Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #5

How is it a scare tactic? virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #7

and many here Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #11

Are you thinking they are going yo confiscated your guns. If this is an ad Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #14

But, you fail to grasp.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #23

I looked at the photo provided in the OP, it is an ad, has NRS at the bottom Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #75

Ahh.... NO they did not pay NYT, please read this link to the NYT, so you can read it for yourself.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #78

Your link is an editorial, I read it and at the top it said editorial. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #87

So what? It is the opinion of the editorial board, apparently. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #142

It's a big deal, GGJohn Dec 2015 #149

I am in full agreement with you. I was pointing out that it being an editorial JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #153

Ahh, my bad. GGJohn Dec 2015 #163

The nra is nothing more now but a far right extremist group. rockfordfile Dec 2015 #32

What you're failing to grasp is the NRA is just repeating GGJohn Dec 2015 #38

They are still a right wing extremist group. rockfordfile Dec 2015 #59

I never said otherwise, but that doesn't change the fact that this isn't an NRA GGJohn Dec 2015 #69

An editorial. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #90

It doesn't matter, GGJohn Dec 2015 #93

See, just more scare tactics. What I did not see was a suggestion for a solution, wonder why Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #98

What scare tactics? GGJohn Dec 2015 #104

The NYT is considered by some to be the foremost newspaper in the world, branford Dec 2015 #99

I could write an editorial. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #106

I think you're missing the point. branford Dec 2015 #112

Then... THEN they'll only be left with THE LEAST POPULAR FIREARMS!!!!!!!! LiberalElite Dec 2015 #10

One or two more attacks on Innocent people canosoviejo Dec 2015 #12

Yep. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #17

It's Democratic party rockfordfile Dec 2015 #35

it's "democratic" Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #41

LOL, DEMOCRAT PARTY Skittles Dec 2015 #95

Hey NRA ...yes, from your cold dead hands if you so desire 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #15

Yep Regional party.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #57

Why post right wing NRA trash here? etherealtruth Dec 2015 #16

The fucking NY Times said exactly what the NRA is reporting, GGJohn Dec 2015 #21

The NRA is right wing trash etherealtruth Dec 2015 #34

Yes they are, GGJohn Dec 2015 #42

My objection is the meme (from the NRA) etherealtruth Dec 2015 #67

I loath the NRA and it's board members, GGJohn Dec 2015 #108

Who will you vote for in 2016? rockfordfile Dec 2015 #40

What the fuck does that have to do with this thread, GGJohn Dec 2015 #46

who will you vote for in 2016 Presidential election? rockfordfile Dec 2015 #65

Are you failing to see? GGJohn Dec 2015 #70

etheral, are you saying the NYT is "trash?" I'm surprised. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #28

No I am saying the NRA is right wing trash and has NO plce here etherealtruth Dec 2015 #30

Everbody at some time links, quotes, cites RW trash... Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #80

Fuck the NRA and their congressional supporters. onecaliberal Dec 2015 #18

AND their DU supporters Skittles Dec 2015 #116

+1 Hong Kong Cavalier Dec 2015 #131

Skittles, as always, hits the nail on the head. Squinch Dec 2015 #208

"Confiscation"? Bullshit. yallerdawg Dec 2015 #19

From your link.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #27

So you agree that the nra hates Americans rockfordfile Dec 2015 #43

uhh....what? virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #51

The nra doesn't want anything done rockfordfile Dec 2015 #72

Then why do they win virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #76

because fear is easier to instill into very stupid people Skittles Dec 2015 #81

yea, look at all the confiscation talk around here lately..SHEESH.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #85

there's always extremists Skittles Dec 2015 #86

Extremists? branford Dec 2015 #107

yep, confiscation Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #44

Where is "confiscation"? yallerdawg Dec 2015 #91

and when nobody "gives" them up? Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #100

REALLY????????? I MEAN REALLY????????????????????? virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #103

This is the New York Times editorial page! yallerdawg Dec 2015 #110

Sigh... branford Dec 2015 #115

Maybe you missed the word "require" to give them up. GGJohn Dec 2015 #111

Combat weapons used to commit mass murder - no problem. yallerdawg Dec 2015 #114

These are not combat weapons, GGJohn Dec 2015 #124

none of my AR pattern weapons Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #127

Your saying you have the assault weapons... yallerdawg Dec 2015 #167

those are not assault weapons as they Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #197

FUCK the nra spanone Dec 2015 #20

"No one's trying to take your guns away." Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #62

like i said FUCK the nra spanone Dec 2015 #71

With erudite political commentary like that, I cannot fathom why gun control is a political loser? branford Dec 2015 #84

last time i'm saying it FUCK THE NRA. got it? spanone Dec 2015 #109

Oh, I got, and so do a lot of other voters across the country. branford Dec 2015 #119

with the nra owning most of our congress critters, you have nothing to worry about spanone Dec 2015 #138

Proved they are right about what? Nt NCTraveler Dec 2015 #37

They years of "they are coming after your guns"... virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #49

I don't know about you, but I saw this coming. beevul Dec 2015 #45

Do. Not. Care. angrychair Dec 2015 #53

No you never tried it my way... virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #58

Maybe you have ideas angrychair Dec 2015 #89

gun humpers are the last people who should have guns Skittles Dec 2015 #92

But now if you had a gun... yallerdawg Dec 2015 #96

The NRA refuses everything Jim Beard Dec 2015 #177

You need to be careful who you play hardball with.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #178

You damn well better care, GGJohn Dec 2015 #83

Ban all guns! n/t PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #82

Fuck the NRA. DLevine Dec 2015 #88

They're NOT saying this GGJohn Dec 2015 #123

The NRA is spinning this. DLevine Dec 2015 #129

I recommend bookmarking this thread... beevul Dec 2015 #97

Yep...EOM virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #105

and they call Republicans the stupid party... Angel Martin Dec 2015 #145

Because a few gun nuts are going to swing the election. 6000eliot Dec 2015 #150

I strongly urge you to remember what happened in 94. GGJohn Dec 2015 #151

Like chicken-shit Congresspeople and the media, 6000eliot Dec 2015 #152

You are aware that this last election, 90% of NRA backed candidates won their races, GGJohn Dec 2015 #154

In an election that was expected to swing Right in RW areas. Yes. 6000eliot Dec 2015 #156

Are these Carl Roves figures? Jim Beard Dec 2015 #173

Ummm, no, GGJohn Dec 2015 #175

Why don't you closely look at those numbers you keep spouting off rufus dog Dec 2015 #194

like the guy in the hbo show lancer78 Dec 2015 #188

Gee, that's so sad that the NRA members are soiling their camouflage undies. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #117

Yea, that will show them, they won't even show up to vote now will they. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #120

Will they still be throwing a tantrum? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #121

Why would they throw a tantrum.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #132

Can you keep your guns, but drop your support of NRA? likesmountains 52 Dec 2015 #140

I don't support them. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #143

ok, but you seem to be pretty supportive in this thread.. likesmountains 52 Dec 2015 #147

The no fly list is a bullshit reason to stop the purchase of a firearm. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #162

you're right, let's just do nothing. likesmountains 52 Dec 2015 #168

the proposed lancer78 Dec 2015 #189

The no fly list? virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #164

ok, yes..don't want to upset anyone! likesmountains 52 Dec 2015 #169

Do you honestly believe that advocacy of an effective gun confiscation policy branford Dec 2015 #125

We "elitists" also vote. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #126

But do you live in purple and semi-rural state? sadoldgirl Dec 2015 #128

I live in a semi-rural area of a blue state. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #195

I'm aware of voting patterns. branford Dec 2015 #148

I have warned of this before, but got the cold sadoldgirl Dec 2015 #122

You gunners are the ones playing into their bloody hands, period. Hoyt Dec 2015 #130

Look I hate guns, but in my state ,which is purple, sadoldgirl Dec 2015 #134

Then we need to encourage Democratic gun fancier-- not a big crowd in my opinion -- to do the right Hoyt Dec 2015 #139

Nobody cares what you think is ok, GGJohn Dec 2015 #144

I agree with you, and this is where Bernie is sadoldgirl Dec 2015 #146

A perfect example is the recent gubernatorial election win of Democrat Jon Bel Edwards in LA. branford Dec 2015 #180

I no longer give a rat's ass what the NRA thinks about anything. grntuscarora Dec 2015 #133

I think you are your ilk proved gun controllers right about the weapons and NRA Renew Deal Dec 2015 #135

Confiscation IS what we need. Why not say it? Fuck the gun lovers. bowens43 Dec 2015 #137

"(T)ake them by any means necessary" Let us know when you and/or your kids volunteer... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #176

On their email alert list I assume?? Nt Logical Dec 2015 #174

To vs. too Photographer Dec 2015 #179

has the nra agreed to allow people to walk into their offices with loaded guns and whatever else the patsimp Dec 2015 #181

You can indeed carry firearms at the NRA headquarters, branford Dec 2015 #184

thanks for the links - however patsimp Dec 2015 #187

Sigh... branford Dec 2015 #190

Good post. The NRA has helped many Republicans get elected to Congress over the last 35 years. Major Hogwash Dec 2015 #183

The NRA has also supported a number of Democrats over the years. branford Dec 2015 #185

In 2000, Bush the Lesser was selected by the U.S. Supreme Court. krispos42 Dec 2015 #186

unfortunately for some, history began yesterday. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #191

unrec... G_j Dec 2015 #192

Boy howdy...the article talks about "those kind" "Certain kinds of weapons".... chowder66 Dec 2015 #193

Ban every last one mwrguy Dec 2015 #196

What? Good. Let them worry. MineralMan Dec 2015 #200

Well, I don't know, but it seems like you're bringing MineralMan Dec 2015 #201

Many people maintain the courage of their convictions regardless LanternWaste Dec 2015 #202

So in your mind we never do anything to upset your favorite group because... Logical Dec 2015 #206