General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: Rise of far-right in France after Paris Attacks [View all]1) I argued that Front Nationals are a racist group, whether they are racist towards Jews or racist towards Muslims isn't the issue, the issue is that they are racist.
These days they seem to be directing a lot of their racism towards Muslims, but I'm happy to acknowledge that they have been and still hold racist views against Jews and other minorities, that doesn't discount my claim they are racist, it adds to it.
2) You first started off by saying that immigrant descendants refuse to let go of their accent which hinders them when going for a job against someone equally as qualified, and now you are using Chinese/ Vietnamese as people who integrate into society whilst forgetting that many many Chinese/ Vietnamese people also have accents.
Who gets to decide the make up of French culture that every one has to assimilate into? Because each French citizen is one piece of that culture, a orthodox Jew who dresses the way his religion asks him to makes up a piece of that culture, just as a Muslim who has an accent or wears a Hijab makes up a piece of French culture.
Do you want society to be like the 'borg' where everyone has to look, talk and act the same just to be able to secure a job or be considered part of society proper?
3) Yes Ataturk was a puppet of the colonial powers. After French and British defeated the Ottomans, they weren't going to let a leader of Turkey try to re-establish the Ottoman Empire again, thus Ataturk was someone the that they would let be in power because they knew he would do their bidding and try and remove Islam from the Turkish culture.
What better way for the colonial powers to make sure that the Islamic Ottoman Empire would not be a problem again than to have someone like Ataturk take the Islam out of the Turkish culture.
And your point about how strong leaders built the independence of their countries by holding political Islam at bay misses the point entirely.
1) Nasser and other leaders of Egypt held political Islam at bay because it threatened their iron fist hold on power. Dictators and monarchies tend to hold at bay anyone that threatens their unelected grip on power, whether that be religious political parties or just ordinary freedom parties.
4) The terrorists are just a small group of people. There are 1.8 billion Muslims in the world, and millions of Muslims in France alone. So when you compare how many people plotted and carried out the Paris attacks to how many peaceful Muslims go about their daily lives then the terrorists are a miniscule group when converted to percentages.
As for your argument that 30-50% of Muslims who ascribe to political Islam support the terrorists, you need to widen your understanding of why there is some verbal support for the terrorists.
And it's not because political Islam demands it, it's more to do with some Muslims being made to feel as though Islam itself is under attack by the West and its puppets.
Laws and policies that are enacted primarily to affect Muslims tends to add credence to their suspicion that Islam itself is under attack by the West.
Profiling and security operations directly solely against Muslims also lends credence to their suspicions.
Decades of bombing Muslim countries is another thing that lends credence to the idea that the West is attack the religion of Islam itself and not just the bad guys.
And lastly, increased support for a racist party like Front Nationals after a terror attack also lends support that the idea that France has a problem with all Muslims and not just the bad terrorists.