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politicman

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16. question by debating it, making derogatory remarks just fuels hatred..

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:42 PM

Dec 2015

I am all for having a constructive debate about any religion and its practices. And I'm sure you will find untold amounts of people ready to debate their religion and the aspects of it that are considered to be wrong.

Bill Maher doesn't do this, instead he makes statements and arguments about Islam (and other religions) that are criticisms or are derogatory.
For instance, if he disagrees with a certain rule in Islam then there is no harm in saying so, but making derogatory remarks or criticising Islam without giving his viewers an idea of how many other Muslims interpret this rule differently in today's age, isn't constructive, its just adding to the perception that is growing that Muslims all follow the interpretations of the Saudi monarchy or the terrorists and as such are bad people.

And as I said earlier, criticising an entire religion regardless of whether some followers interpret it one way or another just ends up in the followers of that religion all being painted under the same brush, which you see daily now with people considering anyone that practices Islam as a bad person, a terrorist, s woman hater or a gay hater, etc.

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It's not just Trump: Islamophobia in America is spiraling out of control [View all] applegrove Dec 2015 OP

The forum here is a peice of proof these days of the rise of anti-Muslim sentiment.. politicman Dec 2015 #1

They're paid trolls. Not real democrats. There is a big campaign on. Comments sections in Canada and applegrove Dec 2015 #2

I suspect they are not... politicman Dec 2015 #4

Bill Maher has questions about conservative islam. I have the same questions about orthodox religion applegrove Dec 2015 #7

not exactly... politicman Dec 2015 #8

But can you question Islam like I question Catholicism for lack of promoting birth control in places applegrove Dec 2015 #10

question by debating it, making derogatory remarks just fuels hatred.. politicman Dec 2015 #16

Bill Maher makes lots of good points Yorktown Dec 2015 #23

Bill Maher is helping Islamophobia grow.... politicman Dec 2015 #30

Islamophobia is a misleading term Yorktown Dec 2015 #32

... politicman Dec 2015 #33

Again, I do not blame people, I attack ideas and texts Yorktown Dec 2015 #34

ideas and texts can be interpreted in different ways by different people... politicman Dec 2015 #39

Funny: you try to justify a text by the liberties believers take with it Yorktown Dec 2015 #42

not so fast..... politicman Dec 2015 #44

Like I mentioned on the other thread, the violent medinan verses take precedence Yorktown Dec 2015 #45

i'm starting it here too lol ^^#%#$*$&%^ politicman Dec 2015 #46

Let me highlight two of your sentences Yorktown Dec 2015 #47

Yes anyone can mae their own religion as long as they are willing to believe it politicman Dec 2015 #49

Your answer is part of why religions are nuts. Yorktown Dec 2015 #51

Religions are equivalent of following societies rules, except religion requires following gods rules politicman Dec 2015 #52

OK, let me put it this way to you, a believer Yorktown Dec 2015 #56

The Bible is... RichGirl Dec 2015 #38

he's actually tempered his rhetoric somewhat recently Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #17

The sooner we evolve away from religions, the better. Yorktown Dec 2015 #27

yep.... that evolution can't happen soon enough, imo Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #54

Amen, brother Yorktown Dec 2015 #55

Oh no they are not. I've been here since close to day one. KittyWampus Dec 2015 #5

The forum here is a piece of proof many progressives wilfully have their heads in the sand Matrosov Dec 2015 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author madokie Dec 2015 #3

Islamophobia is going to be one of our greatest challenges as a nation in the next decades mwrguy Dec 2015 #6

Decades??? I hope not. Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #19

As the demographic gets larger and larger mwrguy Dec 2015 #22

The repukes found a winner with Isis fear flamingdem Dec 2015 #9

they are the fucking worst, aren't they? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #20

The Republican's dream. It adds up to votes for them. nt ladjf Dec 2015 #11

This is very troubling and scary. mountain grammy Dec 2015 #12

A Muslim friend told me he is afraid to go to the Mosque loyalsister Dec 2015 #43

Again, the confusion induced by that misleading term, 'Islamophobia' Yorktown Dec 2015 #13

But there are not christianaphobians who want to stop christians from pursuing their faith and stop applegrove Dec 2015 #14

And? Yorktown Dec 2015 #21

Yes. But you cannot equate any person with terrorism because of their religion. applegrove Dec 2015 #25

Unless terrorists have the sacred texts on their side Yorktown Dec 2015 #29

Actually, there are plenty of them... MellowDem Dec 2015 #24

Yes. And that should be criticized. applegrove Dec 2015 #26

I do not think Trump is anti-Muslim. He is a pragmatist not an Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2015 #15

Republicans hate...period. RichGirl Dec 2015 #18

That is such a terrible word to describe it... MellowDem Dec 2015 #28

I think it is a good word. I'm sure Obama thought long and hard about which word to use as he wrote applegrove Dec 2015 #31

Disagree: the word islamophobia is a ploy to try to disqualify criticism of the religion Yorktown Dec 2015 #35

No. Islamaphobia, as a word, works for me. You can question applegrove Dec 2015 #36

Well, I am a Christianityphobe and an Islamophobe Yorktown Dec 2015 #37

The no true Scotsman fallacy again ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #53

A ploy? I don't think so. Behind the Aegis Dec 2015 #48

Thanks for having understood what I try to say Yorktown Dec 2015 #50

Obama gets lots of things wrong... MellowDem Dec 2015 #40

No. But I'm not a wordsmith by any stretch. I agree with criticising fundamentalism of any ilk. applegrove Dec 2015 #41