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In reply to the discussion: Guns are useful for defending yourself from a home invasion [View all]Spider Jerusalem
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Home protection provides a common, all-too-understandable motive to buy a gun. Few things are scarier than the possibility that some violent intruder will break in when you and your loved-ones are home. This risk happens to be especially vivid for me. My gentle disabled cousin was beaten to death by two teenage burglars in his New York apartment thirty years ago.
Yet having guns around bring risks, too. Practically speaking, its not the incredibly rare risk of mass homicide, but the everyday risks of injury, accident, domestic altercations, and suicide. The relative risks matter. And the fact is: lethal home invasions and burglaries are incredibly rare. You might not think so, since dramatic cases stick in your mind and tend to receive disproportionate press coverage. These cases are rare nonetheless.
How rare? I asked researchers at the Chicago Police Department and my colleague Daniel Rosenbaum at the University of Chicago Crime Lab to track down some numbers. In 2011, Chicago experienced 433 murders. Precisely one Chicago homicide that year was listed under the motive of burglary. Another seventeen were listed as domestic altercations. Some of these might have involved a nonresident partner entering someones home. You get the point. These are really unusual crimes, even in a pretty tough city.
The Bureau of Justice Statistics reports about 100 homicides per year across America that happen in the course of household burglaries. Thats less than 1 percent of U.S. homicides. Yeah, thats about one-180th of the 18,735 gun suicides that occurred in America in 2009. Many people who attempt suicide can be helpedunless they have immediate access to the most efficient and lethal method of self-harm. Then of course there are gun accidents and crimes committed by legal gun owners or by others who gain access to those same guns.
http://www.thenation.com/article/we-fear-each-other-when-guns-themselves-are-real-danger/
Yet having guns around bring risks, too. Practically speaking, its not the incredibly rare risk of mass homicide, but the everyday risks of injury, accident, domestic altercations, and suicide. The relative risks matter. And the fact is: lethal home invasions and burglaries are incredibly rare. You might not think so, since dramatic cases stick in your mind and tend to receive disproportionate press coverage. These cases are rare nonetheless.
How rare? I asked researchers at the Chicago Police Department and my colleague Daniel Rosenbaum at the University of Chicago Crime Lab to track down some numbers. In 2011, Chicago experienced 433 murders. Precisely one Chicago homicide that year was listed under the motive of burglary. Another seventeen were listed as domestic altercations. Some of these might have involved a nonresident partner entering someones home. You get the point. These are really unusual crimes, even in a pretty tough city.
The Bureau of Justice Statistics reports about 100 homicides per year across America that happen in the course of household burglaries. Thats less than 1 percent of U.S. homicides. Yeah, thats about one-180th of the 18,735 gun suicides that occurred in America in 2009. Many people who attempt suicide can be helpedunless they have immediate access to the most efficient and lethal method of self-harm. Then of course there are gun accidents and crimes committed by legal gun owners or by others who gain access to those same guns.
http://www.thenation.com/article/we-fear-each-other-when-guns-themselves-are-real-danger/
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Why would someone care more about hurting their neighbor than defending themselves?
AZ Progressive
Dec 2015
#9
Yeah, in today's fuck everyone else society, that sounds about right.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Dec 2015
#14
As long as the innocent person who dies isn't from my family, even by my hand, it's all good?
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Dec 2015
#16
What if lightning were to strike? We should all have portable lightning rods just in case.
Ed Suspicious
Dec 2015
#127
This post right here is why you shouldn't be allowed to have firearms...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#87
The reason its suspect is because, the amount of DGUs, on the high end, exceeds the amount...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#88
Considering only a quarter of gun owners live in urban environments, it seems another argument of...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#93
Most violent crime happens in urban environments, and yes, why not, especially if they feel...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#97
You last assertion is demonstrated to be false, unless most violent crime happens...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#102
I linked to the Pew research poll about it, did you fail to read it? n/t
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#108
I'm pointing out that, unless you want to argue that armed people are seeking trouble...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#129
That sounds like the improper way to use a gun. Not supposed to draw unless you shoot
MillennialDem
Dec 2015
#38
Well of course not supposed to draw or shoot unless defending - but how often does a person with
MillennialDem
Dec 2015
#51
When I got broken into, they mostly made a mess and actually left some valuable things
kcr
Dec 2015
#134
Very little is needed to validate a thought that one is biased to already believe
HereSince1628
Dec 2015
#32
Unless this sort of thing is common and frequent in my neighborhood, it's just not worth it.
Tommy_Carcetti
Dec 2015
#42
I'm actually for significant gun control, but I believe in the right to defend oneself
AZ Progressive
Dec 2015
#49
Everybody dies, it is a given--- Killing is a choice, it is a karmic decision
sanatanadharma
Dec 2015
#57
I'm old school, and I prefer that world. There wasn't a concern about getting shot because you
rusty quoin
Dec 2015
#80
Your basic shotgun or hunting rifle will do just fine for 99.999% of all home invasion type
Downtown Hound
Dec 2015
#114
Why is this in GD? I thought there was a dedicated toile... errr... home for this stuff.
Ed Suspicious
Dec 2015
#128
They are also useful for killing sentient creatures, regardless of place, time or context.
LanternWaste
Dec 2015
#140