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1. Since no "exceptional legal immunity" exists, that is an easy one...

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It�s time to repeal the gun industry�s exceptional legal immunity [View all] LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 OP

Since no "exceptional legal immunity" exists, that is an easy one... pipoman Dec 2015 #1

Read the article... LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #2

They had unprecedented frivolous law suits filed by pipoman Dec 2015 #6

Gun manufacturers could do more to police gun dealers LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #10

They can be sued for those practices, GGJohn Dec 2015 #13

How, specifically? Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #26

That is not their job pipoman Dec 2015 #27

true. gun manufacturers only job is to make money through the death of other people patsimp Dec 2015 #31

You don't have to like it... pipoman Dec 2015 #62

remember that when an impartial Supreme Court in the future gets rid of the bogus interpretation patsimp Dec 2015 #65

That will happen on the same time frame as Roe being overturned pipoman Dec 2015 #66

The individual rights interpretation of the 2A is not the primary issue facing gun controllers. branford Dec 2015 #89

dealers have been sued and lost Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #44

Straw purchases are a Federal crime Lee-Lee Dec 2015 #111

they had to defend against Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #43

Sure they do, read more about it. Nt Logical Dec 2015 #16

I have, those who state otherwise simply haven't a clue what they are talking about. pipoman Dec 2015 #28

A mass murder (4 dead) was committed in Austin in 2013.... Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #50

But there are special laws for gun companies only! Nt Logical Dec 2015 #60

Gun companies are in the same legal category as Cars and TVs. Correct? Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #61

Lol, all i said is that they pass a special law for gun companies! How is that.... Logical Dec 2015 #64

Silly. The only think "special" was the controllers' attempt to make a special law... Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #81

You really crack me up at times. nt Logical Dec 2015 #83

Glad to be of soivice! Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #88

Inly because George Soros and Mike Bloomberg pipoman Dec 2015 #63

There are special laws for firearm manufacturers branford Dec 2015 #90

Gun manufacturers can be sued if they break the law or sell defective products hack89 Dec 2015 #3

Other products are subject to safety review Orrex Dec 2015 #5

Really? hack89 Dec 2015 #8

Yes you can, there is a special law in place for gun companies. Nt Logical Dec 2015 #17

It is what happens when you overreach hack89 Dec 2015 #18

overreach is what the nra has done with the 2nd amendment patsimp Dec 2015 #32

The 2A allows for the strict regulation of guns hack89 Dec 2015 #38

my failures? - aren't we being a bit personal? Like me saying that you failed because of the people patsimp Dec 2015 #47

Ok. The failure of gun control groups. nt hack89 Dec 2015 #48

Really? GGJohn Dec 2015 #19

Of course I made no such claim to that end. Orrex Dec 2015 #21

If people started a concerted campaign to sue brewers out of existence hack89 Dec 2015 #29

I know that you want the conversation to be about alcohol, but it's not Orrex Dec 2015 #37

The first part of my post explained why the law came about hack89 Dec 2015 #39

Another weak attempt at metaphor by a gun apologist Orrex Dec 2015 #40

The alcohol part was in direct response to your question about alcohol and suicide. nt hack89 Dec 2015 #41

Which, in turn, was a direct response to your claim about alcohol safety Orrex Dec 2015 #54

Do you want me to answer direct questions from you or not? hack89 Dec 2015 #58

so are firearms manufacturers Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #45

Show me the largescale study about gun safety and the factors contributing to gun violence Orrex Dec 2015 #55

"Safety review." It's called proofing. Been done for many decades... Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #57

Gun makers are sued for defective products regularly krispos42 Dec 2015 #59

Why shouldn't company that advertises like this be open to suit when one of its customers murders Hoyt Dec 2015 #4

You've got it all wrong Orrex Dec 2015 #7

Are any of those ads advocating for the criminal misuse of those products Hoyt? GGJohn Dec 2015 #14

would the nra ever let them be illegal patsimp Dec 2015 #34

The marketeers sure know what gets you excited. Hoyt Dec 2015 #53

Sex and violence sells everything from automobiles to hygiene products. branford Dec 2015 #91

Yep, I'm a bigot when it comes to people who walk around with guns like George Zman. Hoyt Dec 2015 #93

Sigh... branford Dec 2015 #105

A typical gunner who straps one on to go to the store. A racist too, Hoyt Dec 2015 #106

No. branford Dec 2015 #107

Because none of those ads come close to inciting violence aikoaiko Dec 2015 #24

BS. They encourage people to train as snipers, urban warriors, tough guys, arm up, etc. Hoyt Dec 2015 #52

LOL. GGJohn Dec 2015 #67

GG, they use folks with a lot of guns, like you, as the model for their ads. They know their Hoyt Dec 2015 #68

Hoyt, if you had paid attention instead of constantly belittling firearm owners, GGJohn Dec 2015 #69

Robbers do more to encourage gun ownership among victims than any ads Lee-Lee Dec 2015 #112

I didn't "admit" to being a robber, I was responding to someone who probably took your course Hoyt Dec 2015 #114

My classes are pretty fun as well as educational Lee-Lee Dec 2015 #115

I know what you teach, the same stuff Zman used to get off. That's what most Hoyt Dec 2015 #124

So IOW, you lied about being a former robber. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #117

Didn't lie, you are just too obtuse to get it. In fact, I did not think you were even Hoyt Dec 2015 #126

That links been posted several times recently, GGJohn Dec 2015 #134

Glad you hang on my every word. Learn to read without pointing at each word. Hoyt Dec 2015 #136

C'mon Hoyt, which statement is not true? eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #138

So just exactly what are you trying to prove with these pictures? GGJohn Dec 2015 #118

Shooting silhouette targets that resemble humans is training to kill, period. Hoyt Dec 2015 #125

I use targets that are just a circle TeddyR Dec 2015 #132

If it represents center mass, and you tote. Or one fancies themselves a sniper. Hoyt Dec 2015 #133

Assuming your perception is accurate (and it's not), branford Dec 2015 #92

Greed, hatred, waving confederate flag are not illegal, doesn't mean those things are right/moral. Hoyt Dec 2015 #94

People have the absolute right hold bigoted, horrible or otherwise terrible beliefs. branford Dec 2015 #104

"In the USA, we do not lose rights because we hold unpopular or loathsome opinions." beevul Dec 2015 #123

I disagree DashOneBravo Dec 2015 #103

you are right patsimp Dec 2015 #33

It's not the guns. The US has a gun-culture problem. DetlefK Dec 2015 #9

Switzerland also does nothing to have a drug or gang problem. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #11

In Switzerland, you can have the gun at home... LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #12

I don't know if the policy has changed 1939 Dec 2015 #78

No it was put in place for a reason....it stopped the lawsuit lottery. ileus Dec 2015 #15

Who should be sued for the attack in San Bernardino and why? frylock Dec 2015 #20

I never suggested any specific lawsuits LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #23

I thought this discussion was about PLCAA? frylock Dec 2015 #25

It is. LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #71

Why doesn't the ATF do it's job and shut down sleazy dealers? hack89 Dec 2015 #73

The legal and ethical principle of "know your client" is a long-standing one. LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #74

So gun manufacturers have access to data about straw purchases? hack89 Dec 2015 #75

I am saying they should know who they are selling to... LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #76

So how do they determine who are sleazy dealers? hack89 Dec 2015 #77

They determine who is sleazy by knowing who they are and what their business practices are LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #79

So they have to do what the ATF is doing right now? hack89 Dec 2015 #80

Extra-legal? LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #84

So what is wrong with an "obey all local, state and federal laws relating to gun sales" standard? hack89 Dec 2015 #85

If they are breaking the law and the gun manufacturer knows it... LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #86

No shit - the "red flag" is criminal activity hack89 Dec 2015 #87

Now you are accusing me of having a hidden agenda? LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #110

No - it's very open hack89 Dec 2015 #121

LOL. LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #129

Ok. Nt hack89 Dec 2015 #130

Jezuz, I just read this ridiculous combination of words pipoman Dec 2015 #108

Why do gun zealots always go for the personal attacks? LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #109

*snort* sarisataka Dec 2015 #120

"They could have personnel visit the shops periodically" EX500rider Dec 2015 #122

There are strong laws in place and a whole Federal agency whose job it is to do that Lee-Lee Dec 2015 #113

I have not given BATFE "a pass" on anything. LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #116

By ignoring them and placing responsibility elsewhere you are giving them a pass Lee-Lee Dec 2015 #119

Nope. LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #128

" It�s time to repeal the gun industry�s exceptional legal immunity" EL34x4 Dec 2015 #22

absolutely. that is vital +10000000 patsimp Dec 2015 #30

It became necessary. If you have a problem with it, blame those who made it so. N/T beevul Dec 2015 #35

Im not so sure its exceptional Travis_0004 Dec 2015 #36

They don't have no exceptional immunity. People just can't sue them if somebody Waldorf Dec 2015 #42

The photo in the OP is completely appropriate for the article... beevul Dec 2015 #46

And a floating stovepipe as well! Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #82

yes yes yes NCTraveler Dec 2015 #49

And if it should get repealed sarisataka Dec 2015 #51

Nope, the PLCAA is good law. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #56

Good luck with that. X_Digger Dec 2015 #70

Not even close. But thanks for the NRA talking point. LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #72

But Seagrams makes a product that is capable of impairing your judgement!! X_Digger Dec 2015 #95

But nobody is saying that gun makers... LuckyTheDog Dec 2015 #97

Read your own link.. the passage I quoted, fer crissakes! X_Digger Dec 2015 #98

But that's exactly what was happening pre PLCAA. GGJohn Dec 2015 #100

That's exactly the same analogy, GGJohn Dec 2015 #96

Perhaps Sen. Sanders could introduce the Bill? brooklynite Dec 2015 #99

K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #101

. libodem Dec 2015 #102

KISS clif Dec 2015 #127

repeal it and sue every time a manufacturer's product is used to murder someone mwrguy Dec 2015 #131

repeal it and sue every time a manufacturer's product is used to murder someone virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #137

And *this* is exactly why the law was passed in the first place. X_Digger Dec 2015 #139

Yep: it's an anti-democratic tactic. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #140

I think not. It was put in place to prevent anti-RKBA groups from trying to financially hurt... aikoaiko Dec 2015 #135