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29. The right to petition is meaningless if petitioning does not change one single vote.

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Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:51 AM

Dec 2015

When big money talks, our politicians listen.

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What Are We Going To Do About DINOs? [View all] Cosmic Kitten Dec 2015 OP

Complain I suppose. The party is a top down model currently. mmonk Dec 2015 #1

OR...starve their fundraising? Cosmic Kitten Dec 2015 #2

I stopped funding the apparatus a while back mmonk Dec 2015 #4

You assumed that you had stopped funding the apparatus. Guess what? The apparatus merrily Dec 2015 #9

I give during the primary process primarily and usually to a progressive challenger. mmonk Dec 2015 #17

I do as well, but learning what is in that post was an eye opener for me. merrily Dec 2015 #18

As I'm sure to most people. mmonk Dec 2015 #20

Our contributions, like our emails and calls, have become irrelevant. Only our votes matter. merrily Dec 2015 #21

Me too. mmonk Dec 2015 #25

The right to petition is meaningless if petitioning does not change one single vote. merrily Dec 2015 #29

True but you might be surprised at what you can do on the local level. mmonk Dec 2015 #37

My local level is Boston. Strong machine. merrily Dec 2015 #40

He's the only one I contribute too! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #43

I contribute to Sanders, but also to others, despite what the post I linked in Reply 9 says. merrily Dec 2015 #52

Yes, but merrily Dec 2015 #10

Whine about them on the internet?...nt SidDithers Dec 2015 #3

It's the DU way. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #5

That is SO much more comfortable than having to leave the house... FrodosPet Dec 2015 #89

Possibly Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #90

The republicans will appreciate it. pintobean Dec 2015 #6

The Koch brothers had reasons to donate to the DLC and serve on its board. merrily Dec 2015 #11

I dumped my DNC membership and any contributions in support of the DNC. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #46

You mean the ones who don't support the party platform? whatthehey Dec 2015 #7

I simply don't vote for them. Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #8

I understand. Personally, I'd rather write in someone than stay home. merrily Dec 2015 #13

Thats what I plan to do at the GE. Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #14

I won't vote for any of them (nt) bigwillq Dec 2015 #12

I want liberal Democrats to control both houses of congress. pampango Dec 2015 #15

Abandon DINOs and trojan horses if you want to elect lots of Democrats merrily Dec 2015 #19

Abandoning everyone that DU considers leftynyc Dec 2015 #47

Well, they have a long track record of utter failure. Why should we continue to support failure? nt jeff47 Dec 2015 #55

Do tell leftynyc Dec 2015 #57

You do realize that there is more than one elected office in the country, right? jeff47 Dec 2015 #58

Not so leftynyc Dec 2015 #61

Yeah, that's why those districts used to be reliably Democratic jeff47 Dec 2015 #62

So now we're blaming the voters leftynyc Dec 2015 #63

No, that's you blaming the voters. jeff47 Dec 2015 #64

Perhaps the demographics changed leftynyc Dec 2015 #65

Nope. Demographics actually went in our party's favor. jeff47 Dec 2015 #66

Wait. jeff47 Dec 2015 #16

Isn't that now the largest demographic group in the US? merrily Dec 2015 #31

Yep. And it's only going to get larger, since the Boomers are shrinking. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #34

The ones that use RW talking points to attack other Democrats baldguy Dec 2015 #22

Leave them alone. You need the South. NYCButterfinger Dec 2015 #23

You don't win the South by being Republican lite. jeff47 Dec 2015 #36

Don't run on gay marriage NYCButterfinger Dec 2015 #39

And throw in other dumbass stereotypes about grits. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #41

because human rights mean jackshit there? Skittles Dec 2015 #91

Not everyone wants to hear about it NYCButterfinger Dec 2015 #92

not everyone wants to hear about human rights? Skittles Dec 2015 #93

I will see that hifiguy Dec 2015 #94

mass narcissism Skittles Dec 2015 #95

Lincoln should have let them go back in 1861 hifiguy Dec 2015 #97

John Bel Edwards would be considered Republican lite here. joshcryer Dec 2015 #67

Then you have no clue about southern Democrats. jeff47 Dec 2015 #69

The most anti choice state in the country... joshcryer Dec 2015 #72

Based on a poll about what a woman would do for herself, not force upon others. jeff47 Dec 2015 #74

That Democrat would not get elected. joshcryer Dec 2015 #75

Based on you knowing nothing about southern Democrats. jeff47 Dec 2015 #76

Udall lost because he went for gun control. joshcryer Dec 2015 #77

Actually, picking the "exact wrong example" was the entire point. jeff47 Dec 2015 #78

I happen to have lived in Louisiana... joshcryer Dec 2015 #85

You're using the wrong tense. We had primaries. jeff47 Dec 2015 #86

Sadly, you are right. GoCubsGo Dec 2015 #79

Hell, with the DCCC and DNC we don't even get DINOs ... Scuba Dec 2015 #24

Is that the chicken, or the egg? /nt pintobean Dec 2015 #27

It appears to have been the fucking plan. Scuba Dec 2015 #28

^^^THIS^^^ haikugal Dec 2015 #87

DWS doesn't want to hurt the fee-fees of her Repig BFFs. hifiguy Dec 2015 #96

Lack of real choices in views of the people. mmonk Dec 2015 #30

After they've both been fried to a crisp, does it really matter? merrily Dec 2015 #33

You could follow Trumps lead and kick them all out liberal N proud Dec 2015 #26

Embrace them. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #32

Why would gettng votes from the Republican rank and off piss anyone off, besides Republicans? merrily Dec 2015 #35

The op is concerned about dino's while their candidate of choice is courting actual conservatives. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #38

Not at all. If Sanders had become a DINO in order to get (R) votes, your line would be more direct. merrily Dec 2015 #42

I support Clinton who rightly attacks conservatives. Guess that's why I don't get this. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #45

She attacks conservatives while triangulating policies, so.... merrily Dec 2015 #53

He courts people by explaining his positions and his remedies are furthest away from the Republican mmonk Dec 2015 #49

This. hifiguy Dec 2015 #98

This thread reminds me of Teabagger threads on FR decrying Orrin Hatch as a RINO. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #44

Sentence one: What are we going to do with DINO's!!! NCTraveler Dec 2015 #50

The political naivte is stunning. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #51

Not this person. People who really do their homework aren't either. mmonk Dec 2015 #59

"We may all be living in Hoovervilles hifiguy Dec 2015 #99

Go after their families? KansDem Dec 2015 #48

OH OH I know... MrWendel Dec 2015 #54

Encourage them to vote for Democrats. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #56

Agreed TeddyR Dec 2015 #68

And run more John Bel Edwards types. joshcryer Dec 2015 #70

Well since we are most likely going to have one ibegurpard Dec 2015 #60

I'll start with the caveat that I'm not a fan of purity tests TeddyR Dec 2015 #71

What do you stand for? mmonk Dec 2015 #73

Are you asking theoretically? TeddyR Dec 2015 #84

I suggest voting for the Democrats you prefer, in the primaries muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #80

Depends. If they're in Red states or districts, support them over repukes. KamaAina Dec 2015 #81

Until DWS is gone, not a penny is going to the Party in general Android3.14 Dec 2015 #82

Most of the DINO's I've seen say they registered just to vote for Sanders Renew Deal Dec 2015 #83

I always tell Democratic national groups to piss up a rope when they call. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #88