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In reply to the discussion: It’s time to repeal the gun industry’s exceptional legal immunity [View all]hack89
(39,181 posts)29. If people started a concerted campaign to sue brewers out of existence
Last edited Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:43 PM - Edit history (1)
then there would be a special law for alcohol.
Gun control organizations overreached and this law was the result. They need to give up the notion that you can sue a company for the criminal use of their products by a third party despite the fact that they obeyed all state and federal law regarding the manufacturer, marketing and sales of a legal product. It is as simple as that.
According to the CDC, alcohol is a common factor in suicides:
Alcohol has long been known to play a role in suicides, but there have been little data regarding which victims use it and how often. Now the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that in a large sample of suicide victims whose blood alcohol levels were measured post mortem, one in four had been legally drunk, with a blood alcohol content at or above the federal standard of 0.08, or 8 milligrams of alcohol per 100 milliliters of blood.
Younger adults and men were more likely than women or older people to have been drunk, the study found. Some 28 percent of adults ages 20 to 49 were intoxicated when they committed suicide, and 25 percent of men were intoxicated, compared to 18 percent of women.
Other experts suggested alcohol may play an even more prominent role in suicide in some regions than the study suggests. Dr. Philip A. May, professor of sociology at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque, said alcohol plays a role in about 40 percent of suicides in New Mexico.
The younger the individual, no matter what ethnic group, the more impulsive the suicide is, and the more impulsive the suicide is, the more likely alcohol is a major factor or trigger, Dr. May said.
Younger adults and men were more likely than women or older people to have been drunk, the study found. Some 28 percent of adults ages 20 to 49 were intoxicated when they committed suicide, and 25 percent of men were intoxicated, compared to 18 percent of women.
Other experts suggested alcohol may play an even more prominent role in suicide in some regions than the study suggests. Dr. Philip A. May, professor of sociology at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque, said alcohol plays a role in about 40 percent of suicides in New Mexico.
The younger the individual, no matter what ethnic group, the more impulsive the suicide is, and the more impulsive the suicide is, the more likely alcohol is a major factor or trigger, Dr. May said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/19/health/19suicide.html?_r=0
Alcohol is implicated in violent crime, rape, domestic violence, premature death, child abuse and deadly accidents. Your attempts to hand wave it away are interesting. I can tell you one thing - where I live, alcohol kills many more people than guns do. I suspect the same is true where you live.
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It’s time to repeal the gun industry’s exceptional legal immunity [View all]
LuckyTheDog
Dec 2015
OP
true. gun manufacturers only job is to make money through the death of other people
patsimp
Dec 2015
#31
remember that when an impartial Supreme Court in the future gets rid of the bogus interpretation
patsimp
Dec 2015
#65
The individual rights interpretation of the 2A is not the primary issue facing gun controllers.
branford
Dec 2015
#89
I have, those who state otherwise simply haven't a clue what they are talking about.
pipoman
Dec 2015
#28
Lol, all i said is that they pass a special law for gun companies! How is that....
Logical
Dec 2015
#64
Silly. The only think "special" was the controllers' attempt to make a special law...
Eleanors38
Dec 2015
#81
my failures? - aren't we being a bit personal? Like me saying that you failed because of the people
patsimp
Dec 2015
#47
The alcohol part was in direct response to your question about alcohol and suicide. nt
hack89
Dec 2015
#41
Show me the largescale study about gun safety and the factors contributing to gun violence
Orrex
Dec 2015
#55
Why shouldn't company that advertises like this be open to suit when one of its customers murders
Hoyt
Dec 2015
#4
Yep, I'm a bigot when it comes to people who walk around with guns like George Zman.
Hoyt
Dec 2015
#93
BS. They encourage people to train as snipers, urban warriors, tough guys, arm up, etc.
Hoyt
Dec 2015
#52
GG, they use folks with a lot of guns, like you, as the model for their ads. They know their
Hoyt
Dec 2015
#68
Hoyt, if you had paid attention instead of constantly belittling firearm owners,
GGJohn
Dec 2015
#69
I didn't "admit" to being a robber, I was responding to someone who probably took your course
Hoyt
Dec 2015
#114
Didn't lie, you are just too obtuse to get it. In fact, I did not think you were even
Hoyt
Dec 2015
#126
Greed, hatred, waving confederate flag are not illegal, doesn't mean those things are right/moral.
Hoyt
Dec 2015
#94
People have the absolute right hold bigoted, horrible or otherwise terrible beliefs.
branford
Dec 2015
#104
"In the USA, we do not lose rights because we hold unpopular or loathsome opinions."
beevul
Dec 2015
#123
The legal and ethical principle of "know your client" is a long-standing one.
LuckyTheDog
Dec 2015
#74
They determine who is sleazy by knowing who they are and what their business practices are
LuckyTheDog
Dec 2015
#79
So what is wrong with an "obey all local, state and federal laws relating to gun sales" standard?
hack89
Dec 2015
#85
There are strong laws in place and a whole Federal agency whose job it is to do that
Lee-Lee
Dec 2015
#113
By ignoring them and placing responsibility elsewhere you are giving them a pass
Lee-Lee
Dec 2015
#119
It became necessary. If you have a problem with it, blame those who made it so. N/T
beevul
Dec 2015
#35
They don't have no exceptional immunity. People just can't sue them if somebody
Waldorf
Dec 2015
#42
repeal it and sue every time a manufacturer's product is used to murder someone
mwrguy
Dec 2015
#131
repeal it and sue every time a manufacturer's product is used to murder someone
virginia mountainman
Dec 2015
#137