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pampango

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5. If we gave up the concept of countries, the PTB would have one less tool of division.

Reply to valerief (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:44 PM

Dec 2015

In the real world, neither religion nor national identity are going to disappear anytime soon. We need to have viable ideas for battling the PTB using other means. FDR and modern progressive countries have figured that out.

RW politicians like Trump should not be allowed to use existing religious, or national, divisions to scapegoat religions or countries for problems that are actually caused by our own 1%.

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The other half of "it's looking a lot like 1933 again" [View all] hedgehog Dec 2015 OP

If everyone gave up their religions, religion couldn't be used as a PTB tool of division. nt valerief Dec 2015 #1

Kind of missing the point there. hedgehog Dec 2015 #2

No, I got the point. I'm just so sick of religion. It's like wearing a bullseye valerief Dec 2015 #3

As it happens, so is going to school, going to a movie, going to a party, etc. hedgehog Dec 2015 #4

I haven't heard Trump's demands about schools, movies, or parties yet. Maybe you can valerief Dec 2015 #7

If we gave up the concept of countries, the PTB would have one less tool of division. pampango Dec 2015 #5

Religion is based on magic thinking. Countries are not. nt valerief Dec 2015 #6

The concept of countries is very much a creation of the human imagination, as is religion. pampango Dec 2015 #8

A measurable boundary is based in reality. nt valerief Dec 2015 #9

A "measurable boundary" is a construct of the human imagination. pampango Dec 2015 #10

You should read Imagined Communities a la izquierda Dec 2015 #12

Thanks. Just an FYI--I didn't bring up countries. I was responding to the poster who had. nt valerief Dec 2015 #13

Pretending the imaginary is real does not make it any less imaginary. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #14

like gerrymandering? panader0 Dec 2015 #15

Proof that ISIS is winning. Oneironaut Dec 2015 #11