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hunter

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150. I quit high school because the bullies had taken to calling me queerbait in middle school...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:19 PM
Dec 2015

... and jamming my head into toilets and such, and it never got better.

The few adults who were aware of the abuse told me to "be a man."

Yeah, right, I was a skinny, squeaky, highly reactive kid. A chew toy for bullies. We did wrestling in P.E. and I was in the lowest weight class. There were just two of us, me and a kid who had worse endocrine and mental health issues than I did, plus he wore very thick glasses.

A circus geek act for everyone watching!

College was awesome. Adults who beat up minors face serious legal consequences. Nobody physically abused me. But there were a few professors, especially in field classes, who clearly felt it in imposition upon them that they had to be chaperons. They needn't have worried. My parents are artists, I'd seen people of all ages skinny dipping and otherwise being silly in the wilderness

I was still such a clueless screw-up in college that I was "asked" to leave twice (the implied threat being permanent expulsion), but I did eventually manage to graduate, nine years to get a four year degree, but starting kindergarten as a four year old who could already read, and quitting high school for college, I did have a head start.

Curiously, among my big-catholic-family siblings, it's my sister and I who both quit high school for similar reasons, who have the university degrees and beyond. Our other siblings who were much happier in high school, graduated and did well enough in the business world that once they had mostly night school two year community college associate degrees they never went back to school, and have no regrets.

My oldest kid has graduated from college and is making good money, talks about graduate school sometimes, but we'll see.

My wife and I met as big city public school science teachers. That was a very rough job, especially for me. I couldn't "read" the kids as my wife does so I had to be a hard-ass disciplinarian to keep my classes in control, which is not my nature. I was hoping to be some kind of Welcome Back Kotter teacher. I was not. When my wife was accepted to graduate school in another state, I joyfully followed her.

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Proud to be the first K&R Warpy Dec 2015 #1
This is why when my Rethug family members voice their stupid opinions ncjustice80 Dec 2015 #120
Ha ! What a pantload Bonx Dec 2015 #2
Because .... ? marble falls Dec 2015 #25
Letting someone know that you aren't interested in their vitriol Bonx Dec 2015 #28
So with you its form over substance. And no-one is allowed to express concern for being ignored.... marble falls Dec 2015 #87
If you don't care enough about an argument to put it into civil and rational discourse hifiguy Dec 2015 #94
How do you yourself know when you are acting "obnoxious?" I'm hard cold serious here. hunter Dec 2015 #146
I consider the company I am in, hifiguy Dec 2015 #148
I quit high school because the bullies had taken to calling me queerbait in middle school... hunter Dec 2015 #150
I was never happier than during my seven years in academia. hifiguy Dec 2015 #155
I won't tone police this reaction. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #27
I was curious if anyone would police my tone Bonx Dec 2015 #29
So that's why I could not detect an argument? Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #33
lol cyberswede Dec 2015 #78
Just hysterical women lark Dec 2015 #82
Probably because that's what you were looking for Bonx Dec 2015 #102
Good points but there is a difference between expressing emotions and hyperbole and extreme rhetoric aikoaiko Dec 2015 #3
Fuck that. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #4
Agreed. hifiguy Dec 2015 #49
A good break down. GoneFishin Dec 2015 #5
What if your tone triggers someones anxiety? ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2015 #6
or what if someone's ragetone comes across as bullying? Facility Inspector Dec 2015 #7
How can I tell ragetone from righteoustone ? Bonx Dec 2015 #8
ragetone is in the selfrighteoustone family Facility Inspector Dec 2015 #9
They all sound the same to me. Bonx Dec 2015 #11
I use the Chanty Binx rule of thumb LOL snooper2 Dec 2015 #14
Absolutely. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2015 #12
Depends on who is getting triggered methinks. ncjustice80 Dec 2015 #121
well, Facility Inspector Dec 2015 #10
Many adults believe tone is never used in serious conversations LanternWaste Dec 2015 #16
Serious conversations Facility Inspector Dec 2015 #17
Never engaging someone's argument, only chastising their tone, Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #31
FI never said that (s)he would never engage the argument... FBaggins Dec 2015 #73
That is true too. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #136
Jury results (I kid you not). MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #85
Juror #4! Matariki Dec 2015 #90
It's a thing of beauty. Wish I'd thought of it. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #92
You have GOT to be kidding me. hifiguy Dec 2015 #93
I like Juror #4 d_legendary1 Dec 2015 #100
That one is exquisitely ripe. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #156
Derp. KamaAina Dec 2015 #109
Fuck "grown ups" hunter Dec 2015 #71
K&R. nt DLevine Dec 2015 #13
Best radicalizing psyop ever made. And many of us swallow it whole. Shandris Dec 2015 #15
the meme du jour saturnsring Dec 2015 #18
Listening is best. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #19
+1 Bubzer Dec 2015 #45
A Zen response, JD. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #118
Any topic that can't be discussed civilly won't be discussed by me. Xithras Dec 2015 #20
Anyone who reduces minorities and the oppressed to children Lordquinton Dec 2015 #22
Sorry, but that is bullshit and offensive. Xithras Dec 2015 #24
You seem angry Lordquinton Dec 2015 #42
*snerk* cyberswede Dec 2015 #80
He shoots, he scores. nt awoke_in_2003 Dec 2015 #139
Whoosh. hifiguy Dec 2015 #50
Such an angry response Lordquinton Dec 2015 #56
The "Angry Atheist" meme is often put into play Lordquinton Dec 2015 #21
Bullshit. I'm an atheist who has disdain for "angry atheist guy". Throd Dec 2015 #30
Atheists are told that they're angry even when they're expressing themselves Arugula Latte Dec 2015 #39
I generally reply with: Not yet, but i'm getting there. Bubzer Dec 2015 #43
I really haven't had that treatment. Throd Dec 2015 #46
It happens in real life but also all the time on the Internet. Arugula Latte Dec 2015 #54
People are rude on the internet? Throd Dec 2015 #57
Yeah, I know, no kidding, but we're just pointing out a common tactic used Arugula Latte Dec 2015 #74
Well, we obviously have nothing to be angry about, then. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #61
So I should be angry? At whom should I be angry with? Throd Dec 2015 #70
Yeah, wow, that's fascinating. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #88
Yep. I've had that experience hifiguy Dec 2015 #51
What many here aren't getting is that tone policing isn't about tone at all Lordquinton Dec 2015 #62
Talking about the facts is one thing. hifiguy Dec 2015 #68
I find the later is the one that's calling the other angry Lordquinton Dec 2015 #99
I am willing to give a calm hearing to a very broad spectrum of viewpoints hifiguy Dec 2015 #101
The point in the OP is that discussion is stopped before that point Lordquinton Dec 2015 #114
Whatever. I'm much more like Data or Spock, being on the autism spectrum, hifiguy Dec 2015 #115
You're almost there Lordquinton Dec 2015 #117
Why are you so angry? Lordquinton Dec 2015 #44
I was going to say the same thing. If you take issue with the presumption of a god, Arugula Latte Dec 2015 #36
+ a brazilian hifiguy Dec 2015 #52
The point of the OP is being fully backed up by this thread Lordquinton Dec 2015 #53
Good points. Arugula Latte Dec 2015 #55
And I'm told I'm angry for bringing it up. Lordquinton Dec 2015 #63
Exactly. It's ad hominem. And it's fucking despicable. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #69
*This* ananda Dec 2015 #154
Hmmmm. I don't remember President Obama ever acting like a petulant asshole. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #23
It's not Trump's tone, it's insanity. blackspade Dec 2015 #35
On DU, the tone policing comes with death sentences, just like the streets of urban areas. Proserpina Dec 2015 #26
+1000 K&R blackspade Dec 2015 #32
fuck da tone police... KG Dec 2015 #34
Rant and rave all you want. Don't be surprised when people tune you out over time. Throd Dec 2015 #37
You're missing the point. It's not really ranting and raving -- Arugula Latte Dec 2015 #75
If it comes off as ranting and raving, it gets dismissed, no matter how valid the point. Throd Dec 2015 #108
any time a woman raises her voice the least little bit, she is "raving and ranting", according niyad Dec 2015 #141
Not much different than Concern Trolling, is it? MynameisBlarney Dec 2015 #38
I dont know about this one. Bubzer Dec 2015 #40
I'm outraged that someone is shaming me for demanding respectful conversation. hueymahl Dec 2015 #41
So then.... Rafale Dec 2015 #47
Women are Tone Policed all the time. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #48
because society has expected them to "smooth things over" for so long, being blunt is confused with bettyellen Dec 2015 #95
In Hawai'i, there is a phrase "loudmout' haole" KamaAina Dec 2015 #107
I have gotten absolutely stunned reactions for calmly but bluntly disagreeing with men bettyellen Dec 2015 #111
Ho! You one loudmout' haole, ya buggah! KamaAina Dec 2015 #116
Stop being so SHRILL! PassingFair Dec 2015 #137
I'm not shrill, I have an anger problem... Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #149
I note it is not an "issue." How refreshing! Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #157
If only more people in American acted like Donald Trump! Democat Dec 2015 #58
This may work on Ivy League campuses. Elsewhere, not so much Ex Lurker Dec 2015 #59
Living in an autistic spectrum fog, I never know what someone else is thinking about my words... hunter Dec 2015 #86
Another spectrum resident here. hifiguy Dec 2015 #96
Many times I have referred to the "blah, blah, Ginger" cartoon. It's a classic. GoneFishin Dec 2015 #125
I've had several close autistic friends. Kurska Dec 2015 #145
The tone arument is a dodge. Iggo Dec 2015 #60
Sounds like an excuse my toddler would use... TipTok Dec 2015 #64
Ah, yes. In adoption related issues I refer to this as the 'big hush'. me b zola Dec 2015 #65
kick Angry Dragon Dec 2015 #66
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Thanks for proving the point - your privilege is showing. cyberswede Dec 2015 #77
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #83
I'm sorry, did you say something? cyberswede Dec 2015 #91
... NutmegYankee Dec 2015 #110
This is the new social justice warrior's defense Township75 Dec 2015 #72
Because if you're considered obnoxious, you're obviously wrong and should GTFO. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #104
You can be as obnoxious as you want Bonx Dec 2015 #105
Thanks! I will. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #135
An example of someone who will not submit to tone policing hueymahl Dec 2015 #76
I sense a lot of unproductive anger in this thread! Helen Borg Dec 2015 #79
K&R'd! Photographer Dec 2015 #81
"It's too soon to talk about guns" is a fine example.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #84
LIKE TERRORIST.................................................................... d_legendary1 Dec 2015 #113
Everything I need to know in life I learned from Seinfeld... Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2015 #89
Sometimes romanic Dec 2015 #97
Case by case basis... ecstatic Dec 2015 #98
Heh I don't show respect to any police. ;p ncjustice80 Dec 2015 #122
A cover story for some who think they have a right to be abusive to others. Waiting For Everyman Dec 2015 #103
Can you have safe zones without tone policing ? Bonx Dec 2015 #106
You shout whatever you want at people and then run back in your safe zone Democat Dec 2015 #131
There are too many words for things and situations that just used to happen. craigmatic Dec 2015 #112
Just what I needed.... Heeeeers Johnny Dec 2015 #119
Jazz hands? Beartracks Dec 2015 #143
Did you Google it? Heeeeers Johnny Dec 2015 #152
Oh, yeah, I'd forgotten about that. Beartracks Dec 2015 #163
I support the right of all those suffering Shankapotomus Dec 2015 #123
k and r + gazillion niyad Dec 2015 #124
Tone policing! I love it. You see lots of this tactic on DU. nt valerief Dec 2015 #126
Great OP! DemocraticWing Dec 2015 #127
K&R betsuni Dec 2015 #128
I saw a textbook example of this oh three hours ago nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #129
It depends. MadDAsHell Dec 2015 #130
KnR. nt tblue37 Dec 2015 #132
but....words hurt people. ileus Dec 2015 #133
What is the difference between complaining about "tone policing" and "political correctness"? Renew Deal Dec 2015 #134
Use whatever tone you want. NaturalHigh Dec 2015 #138
K&R, big-time. (nt) Paladin Dec 2015 #140
TRUMPet your message. Democrats_win Dec 2015 #142
Will people willingly listen to someone screaming at them? whathehell Dec 2015 #144
Sometimes you have to slap them too. hunter Dec 2015 #147
Yeah, unfortunately, they slap you back and then sue you for assault.. whathehell Dec 2015 #161
In other words, talk to everyone like they are a baby. n/t earthside Dec 2015 #151
Did they hand this cartoon to John Lewis when he went to tone police for Hillary when BLM came Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #153
Honestly the fact that this point has to be explained with a cartoon romanic Dec 2015 #158
Do not go gentle into that good night bluedigger Dec 2015 #159
I like this op Brainstormy Dec 2015 #160
Tme the key part mercuryblues Dec 2015 #162
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