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36. Remember when Scott McClelland's conscience got to him. He spoke out about Bush's war.

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 05:35 AM

Dec 2015

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/may/28/georgebush.usa

A former aide to President Bush claims the White House deliberately mounted a dishonest propaganda campaign to sell the Iraq invasion to the US public, in the most damning insider account of the presidency so far.

Scott McClellan, who worked for Bush for seven years, including three as White House spokesman, brands the war a "serious strategic blunder" and "not necessary".

The scathing comments stunned Washington today because the Bush team, until now, has had a reputation for intense loyalty to their boss.

Republican strategists and former White House colleagues turned on McClellan, accusing him of writing the book for the money and asking why, if he had felt as he had, he had not resigned at the time. The White House expressed sadness and puzzlement

....McClellan says in the 341-page book that the way Bush managed the Iraq issue from the summer of 2002 "almost guaranteed that the use of force would become the only feasible option". The US invaded in 2003.

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Call me jaded. I see propaganda all over the place. Our media is pathetic. [View all] madfloridian Dec 2015 OP

Our so-called "free press" is bought and paid for. Scuba Dec 2015 #1

yes the 1% own the msm questionseverything Dec 2015 #50

Worthless as tonsils on a titmouse Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Dec 2015 #2

That is just tragic. madfloridian Dec 2015 #7

Yep malaise Dec 2015 #31

and if the media empires have their way, even the non-US media will become "exceptional" erronis Dec 2015 #44

Nobody affluent makes mounds of money from peace. I always assume that reporting on disasters, GoneFishin Dec 2015 #3

Interesting observation. madfloridian Dec 2015 #64

90% of US Media is owned by 6 corporations nationalize the fed Dec 2015 #4

War is money to them madokie Dec 2015 #5

Owned by those who profit from ongoing war. madfloridian Dec 2015 #6

Oh, I don't know... chervilant Dec 2015 #12

"... a minuscule number of narcissistic hedonists, most of whom fit the profile of psychopathy..." Ghost Dog Dec 2015 #52

Thank YOU! chervilant Dec 2015 #67

And 100% of those corporations are owned by people. raouldukelives Dec 2015 #39

And I understand Bill is running for a third term... N_E_1 for Tennis Dec 2015 #49

Bill is running with tRump. DhhD Dec 2015 #65

Worth emphasising: Ghost Dog Dec 2015 #51

"Propaganda can influence people to believe a certain ideology whether that ideology is right or in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #8

madfloridian is a true asset to this forum. chervilant Dec 2015 #13

.... madfloridian Dec 2015 #15

While people are pelting you chervilant Dec 2015 #17

I second everything you said! haikugal Dec 2015 #20

Thanks, and hugs. madfloridian Dec 2015 #22

...... madfloridian Dec 2015 #21

Makes me mad, too. Takes me back to the bad old days leading up to Iraq. madfloridian Dec 2015 #14

Yep- anyone who doesn't want more war malaise Dec 2015 #32

I want you to know that chervilant Dec 2015 #53

You're not jaded, they just think we're stupid Hydra Dec 2015 #9

The TVs in offices and stores and doctors' offices in 2003 were all set to Fox. madfloridian Dec 2015 #61

Great Post!! Thespian2 Dec 2015 #10

Americans now being told not to travel, that it is not safe for us. truedelphi Dec 2015 #11

Many are harboring similar thoughts. madfloridian Dec 2015 #16

K&R AuntPatsy Dec 2015 #18

Not watching any mainstream media is the best possible thing you can do for yourself. SheilaT Dec 2015 #19

Sad to say... Xolodno Dec 2015 #23

Spain, innoculated against fascism by experience, leaning the other way Ghost Dog Dec 2015 #54

True...but there is something about a white sand beach... Xolodno Dec 2015 #55

That's here: Ghost Dog Dec 2015 #60

I'll have to look into it...plus the surfing thing. Xolodno Dec 2015 #62

TV is a terrible addiction olddots Dec 2015 #24

I'm told only foreign news sources engage in propaganda. Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #25

K&R... spanone Dec 2015 #26

I'm now apathetic about being jaded. Rex Dec 2015 #27

hello Jaded. Great post! mountain grammy Dec 2015 #28

...... madfloridian Dec 2015 #33

I see propaganda all over the place, too. OnyxCollie Dec 2015 #29

"The largest contingent was affiliated with Fox News, followed by NBC and CNN" madfloridian Dec 2015 #30

Misperceptions, Media, and the Iraq War OnyxCollie Dec 2015 #35

Yep, it's relentless. bemildred Dec 2015 #34

Relentless describes it very well. madfloridian Dec 2015 #45

Remember when Scott McClelland's conscience got to him. He spoke out about Bush's war. madfloridian Dec 2015 #36

Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #37

rec & kick MerryBlooms Dec 2015 #38

Yes nothing but conjecture on CNN this morning tiredtoo Dec 2015 #40

word. KG Dec 2015 #41

Very thoughtful thread, madfloridian Samantha Dec 2015 #42

That's because it's not our media. It's THEIR media. nt valerief Dec 2015 #43

The M$M's lying must be APPROVED lying, not just ANY lie. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #46

Many of us on my side of the fence have documented this charade Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #47

Word. n/t. Ghost Dog Dec 2015 #57

K & R for the OP and the responses mrdmk Dec 2015 #48

I have a hard enough trouble swallowing my food let alone huge-ass whoppers like these. Thanks Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #56

The National Security state demands a permanent state of war. Since 1947 this has been true. kairos12 Dec 2015 #58

The purpose of the corporate propaganda hifiguy Dec 2015 #59

Good thread kr nt PufPuf23 Dec 2015 #63

Propaganda is everywhere. malokvale77 Dec 2015 #66

K&R! marym625 Dec 2015 #68