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In reply to the discussion: Well hey, at least he isn't torturing people like Bush did. [View all]stupidicus
(2,570 posts)This is one of many reasons why I reluctantly voted for him under the "lesser of two evils" standard, and rejected Hillary Clinton from the start, feeling she was already corrupted http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=hillary%20clinton%20cluster%20bombs&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CFUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedailybeast.com%2Farticles%2F2011%2F04%2F16%2Fhillary-clintons-cluster-bomb-hypocrisy.html&ei=BTrGT7mPKYnu2gWo_ozcAQ&usg=AFQjCNFzQ0pZ5bGeReMUOG4WCgP5vmwP0A
Let's face it -- foreign policy is where most of the agreement is found in our faux duopoly in DC, and I'd argue that the "give the dogs a bone" domestic issues dems champion (that are inadequate in results) serve to both obscure that agreement and to set up the good cop/bad cop distinction http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29335.htm that underlies the "lesser of two evils" choice. I found HC scariest because of http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/09/hillarys-prayer-hillary-clintons-religion-and-politics that threatened to whittle away at the distinctions between the modern rightwingnut holy warriors and the dems on many domestic issues.
While of course, BHO has long had skeletons of like kind in his closet http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/000867.html http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/11/0081275
at least he isn't a closeted religious fundie, or has a past as one. He's a player like many http://thenakedfacts.blogspot.com/2012/05/rhodes-scholar-champion-of-neoliberal.html that has been chipping away at a different constituency he shares skin color with.
You're entirely correct -- this is just another example of the "our guy (country), righty or wrong" mentality that has permeated both sides, which facilitates and underlies the criminality they know they can get away with as a result. I considered not voting for him because I was convinced very early on, he'd not pursue justice for the war criminals Bush and Cheney. And it remains true, that "if you're not part of the solutions...."
This is why I think the primary if not ONLY ideological justification for the truly liberal or progressive for voting for him is the SCOTUS picks -- an increasingly political branch of gov -- so that at least the rightward march of DC politics he's been a contributor to in some ways that matter, can at least be slowed down there.
The last thing this country needs is another Roberts or Scalito like the Mutt would nominate. The idea that the court can grant habeas corpus rights to accused terrorists but there's nothing standing in the way of an extra-judicial killing of them, is a bit mind boggling, no?
keep up the good work