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In reply to the discussion: Guns are useful for defending yourself from a home invasion [View all]hunter
(40,741 posts)113. This is my most civilized great grandma and my great granddad.

My great grandmas were all wild west matriarchs.
Their men were artists and dreamers.
You can tell who the hunter is in this photo, no? The one you wouldn't want to mess with?
One of my great grandmas, not this one, lived in a two room cabin without plumbing. Bathe in the kitchen in a galvanized tub in water you carried from the creek about fifty yards uphill to the house. This great grandma never accepted indoor plumbing, and she was pissed off with her husband forever, even after he was dead, for signing onto Rural Electrification. He'd passed away leaving her two forty watt light bulbs and a god damned radio. She didn't need any of that shit. I remember watching her cook. She could pick up a knife and turn freshly killed fish, chickens, or small game into dinner faster than I could see her hands move. I used to stare, awed. I also remember her threatening my dad with a knife over some bone-headed artist thing he'd done. He wisely begged her forgiveness. In great grandma's universe minor screw ups killed people. No 911 to call, no antibiotics, the nearest doctor a day's ride away, and that doctor was probably a fraud.
That was on the homestead my mom's cousin still owns, which is just about as far away as you can get from a Wal-Mart or MacDonalds here in these continental United States.
I don't have regrets about my youth, none at all, because I'm not too terribly PTSD or physically maimed. I always walked away, even woke up a few times not knowing where the hell I was, sometimes not even which nation I was in, but with some new stories.
More importantly, I can tell my stories to my children and they'll be thinking, "Okay, got it. Don't be like dad."
Hell, I used to pick up hitchhikers whenever I had a car, and hitchhiked whenever I didn't. I lived in my car at times too.
Two of my brothers liked very big motorcycles. I was more into explosives, or walkabouts in the wilderness. Here is a picture of me on one of my brother's very big motorcycles:

Obnoxious geek.
One night I borrowed that bike to ride headlight mostly off under a full moon to Badwater, Death Valley, average speed greater than 100mph. Death Valley used to be one of my "goto" places whenever I was feeling a little down. Walking across the lumpy salt was my kind of meditation.
Top speed of a six cylinder CBX was just past my own "terrifying" mark so I only ever went full throttle uphill. My brothers were never so cautious, and one of them once ended up in a body cast, which was complicated because he'd left a lot of skin on the road.
My gun stories are not so fun.
Fuck guns.
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Why would someone care more about hurting their neighbor than defending themselves?
AZ Progressive
Dec 2015
#9
Yeah, in today's fuck everyone else society, that sounds about right.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Dec 2015
#14
As long as the innocent person who dies isn't from my family, even by my hand, it's all good?
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Dec 2015
#16
What if lightning were to strike? We should all have portable lightning rods just in case.
Ed Suspicious
Dec 2015
#127
This post right here is why you shouldn't be allowed to have firearms...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#87
The reason its suspect is because, the amount of DGUs, on the high end, exceeds the amount...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#88
Considering only a quarter of gun owners live in urban environments, it seems another argument of...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#93
Most violent crime happens in urban environments, and yes, why not, especially if they feel...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#97
You last assertion is demonstrated to be false, unless most violent crime happens...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#102
I linked to the Pew research poll about it, did you fail to read it? n/t
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#108
I'm pointing out that, unless you want to argue that armed people are seeking trouble...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2015
#129
That sounds like the improper way to use a gun. Not supposed to draw unless you shoot
MillennialDem
Dec 2015
#38
Well of course not supposed to draw or shoot unless defending - but how often does a person with
MillennialDem
Dec 2015
#51
When I got broken into, they mostly made a mess and actually left some valuable things
kcr
Dec 2015
#134
Very little is needed to validate a thought that one is biased to already believe
HereSince1628
Dec 2015
#32
Unless this sort of thing is common and frequent in my neighborhood, it's just not worth it.
Tommy_Carcetti
Dec 2015
#42
I'm actually for significant gun control, but I believe in the right to defend oneself
AZ Progressive
Dec 2015
#49
Everybody dies, it is a given--- Killing is a choice, it is a karmic decision
sanatanadharma
Dec 2015
#57
I'm old school, and I prefer that world. There wasn't a concern about getting shot because you
rusty quoin
Dec 2015
#80
Your basic shotgun or hunting rifle will do just fine for 99.999% of all home invasion type
Downtown Hound
Dec 2015
#114
Why is this in GD? I thought there was a dedicated toile... errr... home for this stuff.
Ed Suspicious
Dec 2015
#128
They are also useful for killing sentient creatures, regardless of place, time or context.
LanternWaste
Dec 2015
#140