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Igel

(35,296 posts)
17. A few fairly nearby.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 11:35 AM
Dec 2015

Mostly accidental if they're very nearby. Kids with guns in a neighborhood where stats keep telling me gun ownership should be very low. Mostly minority single-family residences. There's a spike not far from me in single-residence low-income public-assistance housing. I was surprised to see that the shooting rate was that high. I'm not going to share this with my wife.

This all tells me that the stats are probably really wrong--when you look at demographics about gun ownership, illegal firearms aren't always reported, those owned by teens and adult children at home aren't always acknowledged. Stats are only as good as their assumptions, and one assumption is honesty. We cite them, as do everybody else, uncritically when they support our already-held views.

A decent percentage were police shootings in a primarily minority area. Most of the time there are at least two deaths. One by the hands of the policeman. One by the hands of the guy (usually) the policeman killed. Most are black or Latino. Most are in apt. complexes or at bars/clubs. I keep waiting for a movement to protest their deaths, but that's internal and therefore it's inappropriate to mention the problem.

Houston is fairly racially and economically segregated. You cross a certain street lined with businesses and that map suddenly shows nearly no shootings, accidental, homicidal, or police. It shows some, but if you click on the tack to see the address you find that the address doesn't match the tack. Database error. One side is minority (black or Latino) with larger families, low-ed/low-income (the two are closely correlated, as are income and family size).

3 treestar Dec 2015 #1
22. 6 fatal. mopinko Dec 2015 #2
Check the actual pinpoints: this map is not accurate frazzled Dec 2015 #18
i knew about at least half of them. mopinko Dec 2015 #24
1 and they were from out of town yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #28
Zero newfie11 Dec 2015 #3
Rocky Raccoon doesn't count? Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #5
Lol newfie11 Dec 2015 #9
I don't think the stats go back to 1968 JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2015 #25
None, there have been six one county over. ileus Dec 2015 #4
A shit ton pintobean Dec 2015 #6
Sheeeeit, Man. Where are you? Chan790 Dec 2015 #20
St. Louis pintobean Dec 2015 #23
There have been workinclasszero Dec 2015 #7
18 abelenkpe Dec 2015 #8
None. bluedigger Dec 2015 #10
None, GGJohn Dec 2015 #11
2 Major Nikon Dec 2015 #12
4 fatal within a 20 mile radius. SamKnause Dec 2015 #13
66: 18 fatal and 48 non-fatal Glimmer of Hope Dec 2015 #14
One. Well known right wing sorefeet Dec 2015 #15
Fatal? Chan790 Dec 2015 #22
Very fatal, his son sorefeet Dec 2015 #29
None, but a neighbor stabbed her mother to death with a kitchen knife. n/t meaculpa2011 Dec 2015 #16
Those nasty kitchen knives yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #31
A few fairly nearby. Igel Dec 2015 #17
4, 1 fatal--a failed murder-suicide. n/t Chan790 Dec 2015 #19
8 in a 1 mile radius kiva Dec 2015 #21
1 - not fatal. 840high Dec 2015 #26
According to that, none. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #27
3 dead 1 wounded Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #30
From my address: OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #32
Gadzooks! tencats Dec 2015 #33
1 killed. Domestic violence. nt B2G Dec 2015 #34
None around here. What's with this urban gun violence where guns aren't needed? Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #35
Las Vegas and Clark County, Wellstone ruled Dec 2015 #36
One just last night - a burglar who broke into a county prosecutor's home. NaturalHigh Dec 2015 #37
3 fatal within 2 miles, no non-fatal. kwassa Dec 2015 #38
None where I live in the past year. Decoy of Fenris Dec 2015 #39
One non fatal in past year Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #40
Not accurate. It lists only one shooting in my area. mainer Dec 2015 #41
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