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Chan790

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19. You kind of have to understand how the church views CUA...and BC and ND...
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 11:35 AM
Dec 2015

as compared to other Catholic colleges.

CUA is a pontifical university (meaning it is founded by a decree of the Pope and directly funded in part by the Church...as an aside, campus is technically an embassy of the Vatican), the only one in the US. While it may not have the most prestigious reputation outside of its politics programs, it is very much meant to be the crown jewel of the Catholic colleges in the US. We get all the best stuff the Church can buy us. It takes its policies and leadership directly from Rome as well...if the Pope declared he wanted the bathrooms painted orange on Christmas day and repainted the normal color by the open of business on the 27th, they'd be painted. This is the only college in America that the Vatican actually gives a damn how it's run. (...and they do. They fired one of my professors senior year mid-semester for being a heretic...by decree from Rome. The Pope literally signed his termination and refusal of tenure.)

Notre Dame, Boston College and a handful of others are one tier down...they're universities appointed by the US College of Catholic Bishops either directly or as existing universities founded by religious orders...they're meant to be elite. Ironically, this makes them more conservative as the USCCB is a raging nuthouse of RW fascists largely appointed and empowered by JP II. (Both Benedict XVI and Francis have been more liberal than JP II, Francis dramatically so.) The USCCB partially funds these schools and requires them to be in close communion with both themselves and Rome. they get more leeway in how they run themselves.

Everybody else (including Georgetown) is either founded by an order, in which case, their direction comes solely from the order and not Rome...or they're basically dog-chum as far as the Vatican is concerned. Rome has very little control over the policies of these schools or how they are run...outside of their Theology departments. They're required to abide by a document called Ex Corde Ecclesiae which dictates that they have to teach teachings in accordance with Catholic doctrine within their Theology programs...but other than that, they are on their own. They set their own policies and are fully-responsible for their own funding. If they want to request Title-IX exemptions and forebear themselves from receiving federal funds....that's their choice. Just don't come calling to Il Papa when the US Dept. of Education refuses to permit you federal education funds because you opted out of compliance with non-discrimination policies.

I don't like this but private schools may have own requirements yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #1
Then let them use their own money . Title IV means they want to continue with taxpayer$$$ Person 2713 Dec 2015 #15
I agree yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #17
This is wrong. Tney can do this if they want to but they should not get one penny of federal money CBGLuthier Dec 2015 #2
Agreed. Chan790 Dec 2015 #5
And yet other Catholic universities are in fact asking for and getting these 'waivers' Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #16
You kind of have to understand how the church views CUA...and BC and ND... Chan790 Dec 2015 #19
I kind of don't have to. You have the need to parse that out. I do not. Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #22
This is from June of this year, 2015 Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #23
+1 daleanime Dec 2015 #6
If you wanted, for some reason, to go there, why would you tell them the truth? Shrike47 Dec 2015 #3
That struck me too treestar Dec 2015 #8
A large nursing staff to do hymen inspections? (Ugh, sorry that occurred to me now.) randome Dec 2015 #9
Female applicants have to submit a medical report maybe treestar Dec 2015 #20
Fundy Christian equivalent of a Wahhabi'ist Islam madras. N/t roamer65 Dec 2015 #4
But..but.. workinclasszero Dec 2015 #7
How are they going to keep the father's of the born or unborn children out? Stargazer99 Dec 2015 #10
No only the wh*** women workinclasszero Dec 2015 #11
Considering the number of my college peers that were already married, I wonder that too. Chan790 Dec 2015 #13
That was the first thing I noticed. I can see it now. A male student sees a woman he's had sex with> BlueJazz Dec 2015 #14
You won't yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #18
My husband attended and later taught at the Air Force Academy. 3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #24
As he should. I am in the same boat yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #25
Interesting they want to ban the women who are pregnant, does this promote Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #12
Exactly, good point treestar Dec 2015 #21
OK - once more with feeling. 3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #26
Notice there's no restriction on the father of the pregnant girl LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2015 #27
Anyone with half a fucking brain shouldn't go there anyway ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #28
People like this are exactly why Jesus isn't coming back. Initech Dec 2015 #29
It's all bullshit if they are tax exempt.. mountain grammy Dec 2015 #30
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