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hedgehog

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9. The graph is a poor way to display this information -

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 12, 2015, 02:23 PM

Dec 2015

I think the moving average has the effect of smoothing out the more notorious events. On the other hand, it appears to exaggerate some events because of the width of the columns. For example, were two Americans shot by Muslims every day the last six months of 1983? I don't think so.

Some people have noted that Muslims represent only 2% of US population to suggest that the chart shows that Muslims are involved in more shootings than non-Moslems. However, a single event representing an attack by maybe what, 0.0001% of Muslims will show up on this chart.

I would further question the data source. I've seen reports suggesting that at least 4 Americans have been victims of mass shooting attacks every day this year.

http://www.shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2015

I don't think this graph reflects that.

And of course, who is to define a Moslem? As a Christian, am I connected to every person who also claims to be a Christian as they shoot up a Planned Parenthood office?

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Well, Look At THIS: Mass Shooting Casualties, by Religion of Perpetrator: Muslim vs. Non-Muslim [View all] kpete Dec 2015 OP

Muslims can't be more than 2% of the American population. Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #1

You can see them on the chart SheilaT Dec 2015 #10

I once a knew a Hare Krishna who seemed quite capable of it. forest444 Dec 2015 #12

you think abuse of wives is something new ? JI7 Dec 2015 #19

No, I never said that. forest444 Dec 2015 #20

the hare Krishnas have always been creepy and cultish with history of sex abuse JI7 Dec 2015 #21

I see. I really didn't know. forest444 Dec 2015 #22

Damn as small a part of the poulation as they are, they did all that? linuxman Dec 2015 #2

Approx 14% of the US population is responsible for the 5173 murders in 2014. pocoloco Dec 2015 #11

14% of 350 million is about 49 million people!!?!?!! rgbecker Dec 2015 #29

I'm intrigued by the huge spikes in that graph. What was it about 2007-8 and then 2012-13?? reformist2 Dec 2015 #3

Presidential election years. eom Fawke Em Dec 2015 #7

There you go again ... pesky, unfortunate facts. Oh, Mother Jones. Well that accounts for it. libdem4life Dec 2015 #4

I don't even see religious persuation in their source data B2G Dec 2015 #5

color code kpete Dec 2015 #6

In the source data B2G Dec 2015 #8

The graph is a poor way to display this information - hedgehog Dec 2015 #9

"And of course, who is to define a Moslem (sic)"? Dragonfli Dec 2015 #15

I learned something today - "Moslem" is what Babyboomers were taught to use: hedgehog Dec 2015 #17

Yes. Igel Dec 2015 #24

No skin off my nose, it's just a matter of courtesy. hedgehog Dec 2015 #26

the majority of American terrorists azureblue Dec 2015 #13

A few points: George II Dec 2015 #14

911 is completely left out B2G Dec 2015 #16

Good points. This discussion is skirting around the edges of being Islamophobic. George II Dec 2015 #18

The distinction between Igel Dec 2015 #25

Right, and meanwhile Trump is chasing all over the country using those TWO (not one) people.... George II Dec 2015 #28

Break down the shootings that had religion as the primary motivating factor in the shooting. FLPanhandle Dec 2015 #23

Re that graph--are they mass shootings globally or just in the U.S.? valerief Dec 2015 #27

Watch out... deathrind Dec 2015 #30