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In reply to the discussion: Today's Daily News cover for 3rd anniversary of Newtown CT shooting [View all]Straw Man
(6,943 posts)38. It has nothing to do with amendments.
Unless the entire document is about guns, you don't have a point.
It has to do with one of the writer's justification for dismissing the Second Amendment. If the reason she doesn't like it is that it was "written by slaveholders," she's a hypocrite for accepting the rest of it, which was equally "written by slaveholders." If she finds something else uniquely objectionable about the Second Amendment, that's fine, but it's starting to look as though the only reason the "slaveholders and electricity" argument is valid for you and her is "because gunz."
Unless you're arguing that if you discount one thing, you have to discount everything, and if you accept one part you have to accept all.
If your rationale for discounting that one thing applies equally to everything, then, yes, you have to discount everything. Either that or admit that your rationale is invalid. It's really very simple logic.
I'm not telling you that you and she can't object to the Second Amendment, or that parts of the Constitution can't be selectively supported or opposed; I'm telling that the particular rationale under discussion is fatally flawed.
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I can't even imagine...prayers to him. I think for me to survive something like that
adigal
Dec 2015
#86
But it doesn't apply equally to the rest of it, because the whole thing isn't about guns.
kcr
Dec 2015
#42
So, because I think their slaveholder status was relevant to guns, that means I think it's good?
kcr
Dec 2015
#54
Oh, so the 13th isn't Constitutional enough. Disregard the amendment that corrected THAT mistake.
kcr
Dec 2015
#60
This is the point where I click the "Back" button and go look for something else to read.
NBachers
Dec 2015
#105
Waters = muddied. Good job with your pointless nitpicking. Yay for you. n/t
leeroysphitz
Dec 2015
#97
Ah, yes, but the point is The Constitution has been amended to give full rights
mnhtnbb
Dec 2015
#87
No. Any person wanting to serve with a State Militia (National Guard these days)
mnhtnbb
Dec 2015
#98
The Constitution can be amended. I'll stand my ground on that one. It only takes
mnhtnbb
Dec 2015
#101
Indeed. We have no need for more guns than people in this country. It's definitely a health hazard.
mnhtnbb
Dec 2015
#113
Common mistake. Estimates of the number of people who own guns is quite different...
mnhtnbb
Dec 2015
#118
People tend to only follow laws they agree with and make sense to them.
virginia mountainman
Dec 2015
#33