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Prism

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2. I'd quibble a bit here

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:51 PM

Dec 2015

The Air BnB ballot measure was insanely restrictive. Pretty much everyone was against it. Gavin Newsome was running ads bitching about it. So, I don't know that I want to call it "a progressive measure". It would've ended in neighbors suing each other. It was stupidly written.

That said.

Yes, this city is crazy, crazy, crazy. I've posted about this many times before, but the amounts my friends are paying in the city vs. what I'm paying just outside of Berkeley is insane. They are, more or less, throwing down 6x the money I am.

Berkeley and Oakland are technifying (gentrifying/tech). Section 8 is vanishing. Oh, the landlords will observe the rules, barely, and hey, what does that term mean, affordable? Mix in a world class university full of students with money, it's not going to get any better.

That said. I'm a working/middle class DINC and exist just fine here. It's not the apocalypse. Of course, I don't live in the Mission. That's actually an apocalypse. They're just fucking poor minorities because they can. White guys gotta soccer somewhere!

Maupin's Tales of the City is dead. I feel like people expect that of here. Newp. We're done. We're now a techopolis, and god help whoever's poor and in our way.

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You probably know this but Muni has 1-7 day visitor passes. Luminous Animal Dec 2015 #30

I'd quibble a bit here Prism Dec 2015 #2

Housing prices are though the roof also. In Santa Clara county it isn't that much better. In still_one Dec 2015 #4

I haven't live there in 13 years Johonny Dec 2015 #40

I didn't come that way so I don't know, but one thing I do know, traffic still_one Dec 2015 #41

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That isn't exactly true. A lot of people have lived here for decades, and they are not the 1%. The still_one Dec 2015 #8

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"They have rent control in SF, but landlords are finding ways around that also." KamaAina Dec 2015 #10

I see you are from where I am, so you know exactly what is happening. Not great in Santa Clara still_one Dec 2015 #12

Nope, and we have very few amenities compared to SF KamaAina Dec 2015 #13

That is one nice thing about SF, their mass transit. San Jose has tried with the light rail, but it still_one Dec 2015 #16

And my light rail line runs every half-hour middays and weekends KamaAina Dec 2015 #26

My building is owned by Chinese nationals Prism Dec 2015 #20

They are supposed to be responsible for such repairs, but I understand about keeping a low profile still_one Dec 2015 #21

In theory, they're responsible for tons of shit Prism Dec 2015 #22

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I call it 'Frisco every chance I get. Throd Dec 2015 #27

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There's a vast gulf between providing for everyone and just shrugging off all change as good Gormy Cuss Dec 2015 #45

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do you have a rent controlled apartment? CreekDog Dec 2015 #49

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