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Martin Eden

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16. No easy solutions what to do (or not do) about ISIS
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:19 PM
Dec 2015

I think nearly everyone can agree ISIS is an unmitigated evil. My greatest concern is for the people living in territory ISIS controls, for people living in terror, for those killed and their surviving family members.

ISIS is the direct result of war crimes committed by the United States, in a war of choice based on lies. Human beings are suffering the unintended (or perhaps intended?) consequences of the violence we elected to inflict. We are responsible for this, but I have almost no confidence that any action we are likely to take will have any effect other than perpetuating the cycle of violence.

We are responsible for this. Is doing nothing the most responsible thing we can do?

In a better world, if such atrocities can occur in a better world, there would be a genuine United Nations with the capability, the will, and the mandate to intervene to take decisive action in humanitarian disasters. Although fundamentally different on many levels, I cite the example of the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. Does the world have a moral imperative to take action to stop such an atrocity, and can any action lacking military force be effective in that kind of situation?

I'm talking about one million, two million soldiers representing the overwhelming will of the united nations of Earth with all the necessary resources to defeat the forces of terror, supply all the humanitarian aid that is needed, and work with the people who live there to establish a stable government and an economy that will benefit the indigenous population rather than multinational corporations seeking to take rather than provide.

Sadly and most unfortunately, the better world I described with truly united nations acting together to advance a better future for our common humanity does not exist.

No easy answers, and the atrocities go on. When the most likely effect of any military action is to perpetuate the cycle of violence, the more responsible course is to cease engaging in violence.

Mid-Night Essay [View all] H2O Man Dec 2015 OP
As the father of four I get what you wrote. panader0 Dec 2015 #1
Thank you. H2O Man Dec 2015 #6
I think your OP could use this - DURHAM D Dec 2015 #2
Sweet Honey in the Rock is possibly the most powerful group of female singers ever Hekate Dec 2015 #3
I wasn't familiar H2O Man Dec 2015 #8
Much appreciated! H2O Man Dec 2015 #7
Great composition...you get an "A" libdem4life Dec 2015 #4
More and more H2O Man Dec 2015 #10
I remember, however, the idealism of the Boomers. We were going to stop wars and libdem4life Dec 2015 #11
Valid, important points. H2O Man Dec 2015 #12
.... libdem4life Dec 2015 #13
Kick and Rec, H2O Man Hekate Dec 2015 #5
Thank you! H2O Man Dec 2015 #14
Thank You Martin Eden Dec 2015 #9
Thanks, Martin Eden! H2O Man Dec 2015 #15
No easy solutions what to do (or not do) about ISIS Martin Eden Dec 2015 #16
You are the bows from which your children as living arrows Are sent forth. voteearlyvoteoften Dec 2015 #17
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