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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
22. PS
Wed May 30, 2012, 08:05 PM
May 2012

>The Fed is not out of bullets, it's just shooting blanks. See: "pushing on a string". Only fiscal policy can succeed now.

You are responding to a patient explanation of why pushing on a string does not work by repeating my conclusion as a stunning refutation of my conclusion?

Well. I stand corrected.

And if only fiscal policy can work (I agree) and the Fed is not out of bullets (I assume bullets are things of effect) then the Fed must have some ability to dictate and manifest fiscal policy... which would be awesome but it doesn't.

As for your theory that "Demand for loans and availability of creditworthy borrowers are what drive lending, not nominal interest rates."

Your thesis is: Price does not affect demand.

(Availability of creditworthy borrowers is part of demand so your statement only has two terms.)

Lowering mortgage rates to 0% would, in your framing not cause more purchases of houses. Would raising mortgages to 8% reduce purchases of houses? How about 300%/year mortgage interest? Any effect? Of course not.

Should Toyota stop offering 0% financing promotions since they cannot increase demand for Toyotas? The fact that sales of Toyotas always increase during 0% rate promotions must be a coincidence.

Does the price of a loan affect the number of creditworthy borrowers? A lot of people could service a 1% mortgage on a given property with ease but couldn't possibly service a 6% mortgage.

I give the credit of assuming you do not mean what you say.

We're still scraping along the bottom of this recession. MadHound May 2012 #1
The 1% felt the recession? WI_DEM May 2012 #2
Mortgage rates are too high cthulu2016 May 2012 #3
People aren't buying them for a number of reasons MadHound May 2012 #4
Out of curiosity... cthulu2016 May 2012 #5
Common sense. MadHound May 2012 #7
The purpose of the low rates is to create inflation cthulu2016 May 2012 #9
You're preaching neoclassical nonsense, imo. girl gone mad May 2012 #19
MadHound was citing the neoclassical nonsense. I was translating it. cthulu2016 May 2012 #21
PS cthulu2016 May 2012 #22
An alternative prognosis is that resource constraints put a ceiling on growth bhikkhu May 2012 #25
I mean every word of what I wrote. girl gone mad May 2012 #26
dear MadHound, you are "on the left" - that explains the poster's agenda completely... msongs May 2012 #10
Good lord... do you have any thought process at all? cthulu2016 May 2012 #20
If the homeowners would just band together and sell off a bunch of Credit Default Swaps, jtuck004 May 2012 #6
People aren't buying because they don't have jobs... Mayflower1 May 2012 #11
Propping up prices (for banks that hold so many homes) is slowing what recovery there is. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #8
Sadly Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #12
Which is exactly why this path of non-solutions was exactly the wrong thing to do Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #15
Can you keep a secret? Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #16
Well I'm a bad Democrat, There are certain principles that I will always stand by even, and Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #24
Interesting... because in May the realtors I know can't take a day off... progressivebydesign May 2012 #13
Isolated markets? Hawkowl May 2012 #17
As we all know anecdote is much more important than data AngryAmish May 2012 #18
We bailed out the banks that hold title to many of these homes. This has kept home prices Romulox May 2012 #14
if we supported the job market, and by aftereffect, worker's wages magical thyme May 2012 #23
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