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meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
10. The only way to avoid it...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 06:18 PM
Dec 2015

is to never buy anything.

The corporate tax is a sneaky and regressive national sales tax and you pay it on everything, including food and medicine.

The corporations don't mind taxes. They simply pay millions to lobbyists, lawyers and CPAs to get a leg up on their competitors, meaning each other.

Graphic: Who Pays Taxes [View all] grahamhgreen Dec 2015 OP
Not completely correct TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #1
Exactly why we should eliminate all worker income tax. grahamhgreen Dec 2015 #2
Certainly an option. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #3
It's cheaper and easier for the govt to police a few corporations instead of millions of Americans. grahamhgreen Dec 2015 #6
It reduces the number of stakeholders. Igel Dec 2015 #28
You'd like the people who get millions in salaries to get it tax free? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #15
id rather have the corporations collect them cause then if i decide not to buy their product saturnsring Dec 2015 #5
Not sure I understand... TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #8
if their tax rate was 20% and no one bought anythng they had to sell who would pay their 20% saturnsring Dec 2015 #13
Another corporation that I woul buy from instead. Jim Beard Dec 2015 #16
Still not clear? TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #17
there are a lot of products that i dont buy from any company but ... saturnsring Dec 2015 #18
But your paying it anyways. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #20
Both are taxed a dollar Jim Beard Dec 2015 #21
Yes, and... TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #30
That's not really correct. Companies generally don't keep prices "low" out of the goodness of their MillennialDem Dec 2015 #33
Except for one thing TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #36
That only applies in a cartel or monopoly scenario, and in the cartel scenario it only MillennialDem Dec 2015 #37
Not true TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #38
Yeah it is but you're a true believer and no amount of evidence will change your view MillennialDem Dec 2015 #39
If your going to quote a site, you should at least note that... TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #41
Its like anyother tax Jim Beard Dec 2015 #22
If no one bought anything they would owe no taxes. former9thward Dec 2015 #50
The only way to avoid it... meaculpa2011 Dec 2015 #10
Absolutely. Agree! TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #11
Hmm. But taxes on people work differently? DirkGently Dec 2015 #56
Nope. Corporations do not just "pass on" all the taxes they pay. They can't. DirkGently Dec 2015 #19
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you Jim Beard Dec 2015 #23
I have never met you Dirk but I do admire George Gentley Jim Beard Dec 2015 #24
Ha! Different British pop culture reference. DirkGently Dec 2015 #25
Thank you. -none Dec 2015 #27
I suggest you read up on Tax Incidence TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #42
Well, your "central thrust" is rejected by all economists. DirkGently Dec 2015 #44
Nope TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #45
Please cite an economist who supports this idea? DirkGently Dec 2015 #49
I'm not even sure that warrents being called a straw man... TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #53
So you agree no economists think corporate taxes are "generally" passed on to consumers. DirkGently Dec 2015 #54
You reference debunks itself TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #57
Yes, your argument has about zero economists behind it. DirkGently Dec 2015 #58
Can you back up your statements? TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #59
Which of the five studies did you not see? DirkGently Dec 2015 #60
Wrong topic TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #65
Should be easy to show it's the "minority" view then, eh? DirkGently Dec 2015 #69
I didn't make the statement that all economists believed it. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #70
No name-calling here! If anything you are valiant in defeat. DirkGently Dec 2015 #71
As I predicted... distraction. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #72
Economists establishing corporate taxes aren't passed to consumers was probably "the best." DirkGently Dec 2015 #73
I assume the material in this post was written by an academic "economist". former9thward Dec 2015 #51
The U. of Chicago study concluding the same thing was by DirkGently Dec 2015 #55
Passing on costs to consumers depends if demand is elastic or inelastic hollowdweller Dec 2015 #34
Which indicates some fraction will get passed. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #43
If you look closely, you can just barely make out the system "fix" that Bill Clinton made Bucky Dec 2015 #4
Nice catch:) grahamhgreen Dec 2015 #7
Please consider the source....nt clarice Dec 2015 #9
welcome back ghg Doctor_J Dec 2015 #12
Thanks! grahamhgreen Dec 2015 #14
I would agree to eliminating all corp. taxes in exchange for no corporate campaign contributions Yavin4 Dec 2015 #26
Not sure I understand the logic there... grahamhgreen Dec 2015 #29
All this talk about corporations passing on the expense any taxes they pay.... Bigmack Dec 2015 #31
Your not understanding this. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #40
Your (sic) not understand this... Bigmack Dec 2015 #47
I agree somewhat TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #48
You mean like these companies..? Bigmack Dec 2015 #62
Those "market forces" are working well for the corporations...for us, not so much... Bigmack Dec 2015 #64
Clarify TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #66
You said... Bigmack Dec 2015 #67
That wasn't the question. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #68
Yeah, but it's us individuals who get all the government benefits ... Scuba Dec 2015 #32
They'll just whine that the $4,000 per year is letting them keep their own hard earned money - which MillennialDem Dec 2015 #35
Do the corporations get tax breaks for expense of lobbyists and politicians on the payroll? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #46
For lobbying, yes, I believe they can. grahamhgreen Dec 2015 #52
We are near some semblance of a happy medium bhikkhu Dec 2015 #61
Pretty shameful graphic...thanks for that. EndElectoral Dec 2015 #63
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