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muriel_volestrangler

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15. You'd like the people who get millions in salaries to get it tax free?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:01 PM
Dec 2015

It would be the reverse of the 'carried interest' scam - all the rich owners would get some minimum work job and get paid millions tax-free; and since worker salaries are a legitimate expense for a company, that would be complete tax-free. Even if you had some way of determining what was a real job, there are still people who get paid millions for genuine work (bankers, CEOs) - you'd let them pay nothing?

Graphic: Who Pays Taxes [View all] grahamhgreen Dec 2015 OP
Not completely correct TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #1
Exactly why we should eliminate all worker income tax. grahamhgreen Dec 2015 #2
Certainly an option. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #3
It's cheaper and easier for the govt to police a few corporations instead of millions of Americans. grahamhgreen Dec 2015 #6
It reduces the number of stakeholders. Igel Dec 2015 #28
You'd like the people who get millions in salaries to get it tax free? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #15
id rather have the corporations collect them cause then if i decide not to buy their product saturnsring Dec 2015 #5
Not sure I understand... TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #8
if their tax rate was 20% and no one bought anythng they had to sell who would pay their 20% saturnsring Dec 2015 #13
Another corporation that I woul buy from instead. Jim Beard Dec 2015 #16
Still not clear? TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #17
there are a lot of products that i dont buy from any company but ... saturnsring Dec 2015 #18
But your paying it anyways. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #20
Both are taxed a dollar Jim Beard Dec 2015 #21
Yes, and... TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #30
That's not really correct. Companies generally don't keep prices "low" out of the goodness of their MillennialDem Dec 2015 #33
Except for one thing TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #36
That only applies in a cartel or monopoly scenario, and in the cartel scenario it only MillennialDem Dec 2015 #37
Not true TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #38
Yeah it is but you're a true believer and no amount of evidence will change your view MillennialDem Dec 2015 #39
If your going to quote a site, you should at least note that... TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #41
Its like anyother tax Jim Beard Dec 2015 #22
If no one bought anything they would owe no taxes. former9thward Dec 2015 #50
The only way to avoid it... meaculpa2011 Dec 2015 #10
Absolutely. Agree! TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #11
Hmm. But taxes on people work differently? DirkGently Dec 2015 #56
Nope. Corporations do not just "pass on" all the taxes they pay. They can't. DirkGently Dec 2015 #19
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you Jim Beard Dec 2015 #23
I have never met you Dirk but I do admire George Gentley Jim Beard Dec 2015 #24
Ha! Different British pop culture reference. DirkGently Dec 2015 #25
Thank you. -none Dec 2015 #27
I suggest you read up on Tax Incidence TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #42
Well, your "central thrust" is rejected by all economists. DirkGently Dec 2015 #44
Nope TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #45
Please cite an economist who supports this idea? DirkGently Dec 2015 #49
I'm not even sure that warrents being called a straw man... TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #53
So you agree no economists think corporate taxes are "generally" passed on to consumers. DirkGently Dec 2015 #54
You reference debunks itself TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #57
Yes, your argument has about zero economists behind it. DirkGently Dec 2015 #58
Can you back up your statements? TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #59
Which of the five studies did you not see? DirkGently Dec 2015 #60
Wrong topic TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #65
Should be easy to show it's the "minority" view then, eh? DirkGently Dec 2015 #69
I didn't make the statement that all economists believed it. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #70
No name-calling here! If anything you are valiant in defeat. DirkGently Dec 2015 #71
As I predicted... distraction. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #72
Economists establishing corporate taxes aren't passed to consumers was probably "the best." DirkGently Dec 2015 #73
I assume the material in this post was written by an academic "economist". former9thward Dec 2015 #51
The U. of Chicago study concluding the same thing was by DirkGently Dec 2015 #55
Passing on costs to consumers depends if demand is elastic or inelastic hollowdweller Dec 2015 #34
Which indicates some fraction will get passed. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #43
If you look closely, you can just barely make out the system "fix" that Bill Clinton made Bucky Dec 2015 #4
Nice catch:) grahamhgreen Dec 2015 #7
Please consider the source....nt clarice Dec 2015 #9
welcome back ghg Doctor_J Dec 2015 #12
Thanks! grahamhgreen Dec 2015 #14
I would agree to eliminating all corp. taxes in exchange for no corporate campaign contributions Yavin4 Dec 2015 #26
Not sure I understand the logic there... grahamhgreen Dec 2015 #29
All this talk about corporations passing on the expense any taxes they pay.... Bigmack Dec 2015 #31
Your not understanding this. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #40
Your (sic) not understand this... Bigmack Dec 2015 #47
I agree somewhat TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #48
You mean like these companies..? Bigmack Dec 2015 #62
Those "market forces" are working well for the corporations...for us, not so much... Bigmack Dec 2015 #64
Clarify TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #66
You said... Bigmack Dec 2015 #67
That wasn't the question. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #68
Yeah, but it's us individuals who get all the government benefits ... Scuba Dec 2015 #32
They'll just whine that the $4,000 per year is letting them keep their own hard earned money - which MillennialDem Dec 2015 #35
Do the corporations get tax breaks for expense of lobbyists and politicians on the payroll? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #46
For lobbying, yes, I believe they can. grahamhgreen Dec 2015 #52
We are near some semblance of a happy medium bhikkhu Dec 2015 #61
Pretty shameful graphic...thanks for that. EndElectoral Dec 2015 #63
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