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106. Alas the Eastern Bunny shoudl also be visited NOT during school hours

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:26 PM

Dec 2015

Tell me what is the pedagogical interest in having children leave the school, go down to wherever, have some chocolate and sit on Santa's lap? And yes, a Jewish kid who is 4 or 5 will ask the obvious question, why is it that if I am a good boygirl, santa does not stop at home to leave me a gift? Perhaps you are having a problem understanding how this is a problem. I get it, if you are not a minority this is very normal... and part of the culture. For a 5 year old it can be rather confusing.

And yes, Saint Nick is part of CHRISTMAS. which is a CHRISTIAN celebration.

Now if the school also serves latkes, and plays the dreidel, and have a kwanza celebration... oh wait. But if they did, you could make an argument that perhaps this is just cultural exposure, which kids get a lot of anyway, since this is the MAJORITY RELIGIOUS environment.

And no, an not off. Have an excellent day.

If I had a kid in that school, I would be contacting the ACLU by the way.

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Halt to San Jose kindergartners� Santa visit angers parents [View all] Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 OP

So now the PC Police are attacking Santa? What the serious fuck??? Initech Dec 2015 #1

public schools should not be promoting religion nt msongs Dec 2015 #2

The church of Santa Claus? Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #3

Santa is indeed an icon of Christmas which happens to be a Christian religion. Luminous Animal Dec 2015 #120

Santa is a religion? nt JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2015 #4

Yes, I remember the Zoroastrian story about how Santa Claus ascended the Tree of Life and... Shandris Dec 2015 #7

You are correct, that did not happen this way nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #10

I note that the historic St. Nicholas had no reindeer, no outfit, no white beard, no... Shandris Dec 2015 #79

Yes there is nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #80

You presume much. I'm not Christian. I was RAISED Christian, and there's a wealth of difference. Shandris Dec 2015 #84

Forgive me nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #86

Since when did Santa Claus become a religion? GGJohn Dec 2015 #8

SInce he was based on a Christian Saint.... Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #12

Santa Claus is based on a Christian Saint? GGJohn Dec 2015 #22

You really didn't know that? Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #31

I swear I didn't know that. GGJohn Dec 2015 #35

Its all good, but there really isn't anything 'PC' about not doing religious stuff during.... Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #38

Well, when you put it that way..... GGJohn Dec 2015 #42

I was raised in that era too but treestar Dec 2015 #74

The RCC dumped him along with St. Valentine and a few others Warpy Dec 2015 #48

Up on the roof top click, click, click. Down through the chimney with good Saint Nick. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2015 #122

Sounds very familiar, GGJohn Dec 2015 #123

He's based on a hodgpodge of myths and figures zigby Dec 2015 #94

Oh for fucks sake... Santa Claus is as religious as the Coca-Cola polar bears Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2015 #57

+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #72

He is part of the religious tradition treestar Dec 2015 #73

Most of western civilization came out of the christian tradition Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2015 #88

i just had coffee with my hindu friend zigby Dec 2015 #96

I'm just amazed at what constitutes a field trip nowadays n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #5

I thought the same thing Skittles Dec 2015 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author Shandris Dec 2015 #6

Not surprising that 'microagressions' become a problem when they hit college. kiva Dec 2015 #9

Hell, I remember getting a letter from the principal packman Dec 2015 #11

That's a completely different issue. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #75

Yes, it's okay for kids to feel left out. Igel Dec 2015 #16

Being left out is fine, having religious stuff go down in public school is not. Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #21

The distinction between culture and religion is a non-existent one. Igel Dec 2015 #89

You seriously are comparing kindergarden nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #90

Smartest post on this thread. zigby Dec 2015 #98

the ol' "I'm bald, everyone else must shave" routine? MisterP Dec 2015 #24

I disagree with this. I remember growing up Jehovah Witnesses would not even salute the flag and Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #29

I'm thinking you meant to respond kiva Dec 2015 #45

Sorry, small screen and big fingers. Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #49

... kiva Dec 2015 #67

As a Jewish parent of a Jewish child, I applaud this mother. Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #13

Yes, because a fat man saying "Ho ho ho" would cause any Jewish child to question his faith. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #18

You obviously don't get it Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #19

I like to expose my daughter to cultural traditions outside those of our own family. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #23

That's fine and dandy, do it on your own time, not in public school. Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #25

Instead of one day of presents they get eight *crazy* nights, Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #30

No. They don't. That was an SNL character. nt Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #32

Darn Wikipedia wrong again. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #37

Yes presents are exchanged, but Hanukkah Harry was an SNL skit from the early 90s Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #41

Yes, wiki is wrong nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #81

+1000. GGJohn Dec 2015 #28

I am so glad my kids are out of school B2G Dec 2015 #14

It's been a long time since I was in kindergarten, Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #15

I was thinking the same thing. Isn't that something you do with mom or dad and they take photos Person 2713 Dec 2015 #54

I grew up in a small farming community. Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #68

Ha I have a photo of one of my kids around 1 or 2 looks like Santa is kidnapping him . The fear Person 2713 Dec 2015 #70

My sister brought my nephew to a discount store to see Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #71

Does Santa say "Ho ho ho! Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior!" Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #17

Is he not the personification of an inherently Christian holiday? Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #20

If I was living in Israel, Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #27

Israel being a state founded as a homeland for the jewish people vs America which has the.... Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #34

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion" Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #40

The words "...separation of church and state..." Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #51

It is the establishment clause in the First Ammendment nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #100

Um, no. Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #33

The holiday he represents and the historical figure that he....is Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #36

I am Catholic and know quite well the saint you speak of. Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #39

I see, you are taking issue with my use of the word 'personification'. Feel free to sub in... Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #43

Fuck that, Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #46

Whoa there Blitzen.... Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #50

No, he most certainly DOES NOT Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #52

Again. You are missing the point. Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #53

There are plenty of people who are not Christian who celebrate the holiday Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #56

Yes but meat is not inherently religious and you weren't taken to a steak house by the school on.... Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #58

I thought we already established modern Santa is not really religious. Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #60

You tried to establish that. 'We' did nothing of the sort. Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #62

Scarlett, do you have the vapors? Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #64

Dude.... Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #66

In addition, please trust that I would be just as against having a Seder during the school day. Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #55

And I would be against holding a mass. Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #59

Honestly, I'd be against a 'rousing' game of dreidel during the school day as well. Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #61

OF course it is, you just like being sanctimonious and it fits your argument Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #63

Only one of us is angry here, and let me give you a hint, its the one allegedly filled... Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #65

That dude's beard is nowhere near long enough. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #44

He probably smells of beef and cheese. Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #47

The Cambrian School District. Making students smarter and the world a better place. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #26

I'm so over this PC crap. 840high Dec 2015 #69

Oh, FFS! GoCubsGo Dec 2015 #76

My thoughts exactly. Hepburn Dec 2015 #82

FFS matt819 Dec 2015 #77

What part of the school day does visting Santa fall under? Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #83

School outings cover all sorts of activities matt819 Dec 2015 #101

Read the Establishment clause of the in the Bill of Rights nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #87

Read the NYC parking regiulations. rug Dec 2015 #91

And do explain to me how the NYC parking regulations relate to the establishment clause nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #92

Perhaps you do not object to a government suspending laws for Purim. rug Dec 2015 #95

Are they doing it for all significant holidays of all faiths? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #97

The test is not whether it is open to all but whether it has a seclar purpose. rug Dec 2015 #102

Nope nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #103

Er, do you realize you bolded "extra-curricular religious "education" programs"? rug Dec 2015 #105

Santa is part of a CHRISTMAS CELEBRATION, which is a RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #107

They're going to a cafe to drink hot chocolate with Santa. rug Dec 2015 #108

Conflating issues nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #109

Here's a shot of another religious service. rug Dec 2015 #112

I am sorry if you cannot understand how this St Nick dude nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #114

"People like you" rug Dec 2015 #116

By the way, the NYC school district started respecting Muslim traditions nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #99

Read the test. Misinformation is worse than ignorance. rug Dec 2015 #104

Alas the Eastern Bunny shoudl also be visited NOT during school hours nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #106

Lol! rug Dec 2015 #110

Yup, ignore the concerns of minorities nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #111

Correcting you is hardly ignoring the concerns of minorities. rug Dec 2015 #113

You are the one conflating adults with children nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #115

Actually, I'm correcting you, directly. rug Dec 2015 #117

Keep the illusion nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #118

No, I'll stick with the facts. rug Dec 2015 #119

Your version of the facts nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #121

I have no problem with Santa. longship Dec 2015 #78

I got drunk with Santa once. I'd keep him away from kids too. Glassunion Dec 2015 #85

Sugar AND paganism?! zigby Dec 2015 #93