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Angel Martin

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64. help me get this straight...

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:07 PM

Dec 2015

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I believe the received view is that people who call themselves muslims, and do mass killings, are not actually muslims.

And white men who do mass killings, but call themselves atheists, are actually christians.

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White guys are killing us: Toxic, cowardly masculinity, our unhealable national illness [View all] mwrguy Dec 2015 OP

For it's actual political effect, Salon should be paid by the NRA. nt Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #1

That's a very creative and colorful allegation. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #2

I see your point, but gven the usual suspects, it ain't too creative. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #29

It's become a sensationalist blog, sadly. closeupready Dec 2015 #8

Agreed. Salon is a right-wing caricature of progressives LittleBlue Dec 2015 #18

Agree. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #20

Another anti-white screed spouting nonsense. virgogal Dec 2015 #3

Yeah, that's exacrtly what it was... Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #4

I was especially amused by the pic virgogal Dec 2015 #14

You really ought to go back and re-read the article. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #16

Are gang-related shootings included in 'mass shooting' statistics? B2G Dec 2015 #5

Answered my own question. B2G Dec 2015 #9

They are when it's convenient to do so. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #12

They were completely left out. Color me shocked. nt B2G Dec 2015 #13

Yes, they are included in "a mass shooting every day" TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #53

Salon - hahaha!!!! 840high Dec 2015 #6

+1. closeupready Dec 2015 #10

So here's the way it's done on DU B2G Dec 2015 #7

A quote from a black minister when a black and a white outlaw were both lynched... Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #30

An obvious example of racism GummyBearz Dec 2015 #57

The explanation from witnesses/participants was after stringing up Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #63

That article failed to explain to my satisfaction Nevernose Dec 2015 #56

"White men are approximately 30% of the population but account for 60% of the mass shootings." Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #11

You must have missed all of the threads deploring gang-related B2G Dec 2015 #15

What you did there... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #17

So you care about gang shootings? You know the names of those shot? randys1 Dec 2015 #26

Oh NOW you want to talk about root cause B2G Dec 2015 #27

Instead of making an accusation you cant back up, just admit you dont give a shit randys1 Dec 2015 #39

You completely ignore the situation B2G Dec 2015 #47

Unfortunately, MSM (whose gun-ban proclivities are well-known) don't do Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #32

I guess I've missed those too. cwydro Dec 2015 #45

Not if the two sorts of crimes have different underlying motives mythology Dec 2015 #22

I most certainly agree on that point. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #28

Divide that also into gender and you get an even more skewed statistic Major Nikon Dec 2015 #78

So, help me keep this straight; Muslims are not responsible for muslim terrorists... lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #19

help me get this straight... Angel Martin Dec 2015 #64

What self declared atheists are being called Christians? Bradical79 Dec 2015 #65

I'd guess that refers to Timothy McVeigh. EX500rider Dec 2015 #72

McVeigh wasn't an atheist though -nt Bradical79 Dec 2015 #81

it was in these comments Angel Martin Dec 2015 #75

I see. I'm not sure how that is relevant though Bradical79 Dec 2015 #80

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #21

Looks like a Discussionist thread got misplaced, here at DU. Paladin Dec 2015 #23

Well, the OP is pure DU Bonx Dec 2015 #24

Who parents white men? The extent to which the parents of dysfunctional white men closeupready Dec 2015 #25

"Code of Silence?" About "dysfunctional" whites? In DU? Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #33

Seems like parents are never to blame when white men behave badly. closeupready Dec 2015 #35

Oh, but the Sandy Hook killer's Mom was thoroughly keel-hauled. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #37

Perhaps, but certainly threads on DU are ANYTHING but constructive when closeupready Dec 2015 #41

Agreed. Peace to you as well. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #42

I think it is masculinity generally treestar Dec 2015 #31

Possibly, but in the Gungeon it is Penis�. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #34

Yes TeddyR Dec 2015 #40

Agreed Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #36

I agree. cwydro Dec 2015 #38

We are all descendants of an unbroken string of winners in the brutal struggle that is life Fumesucker Dec 2015 #44

If the majority of gun owners were people of color.. Matrosov Dec 2015 #43

That is the entire point of this article. And what so many of of this thread are burning 1000 Number23 Dec 2015 #50

The error in the article is gwheezie Dec 2015 #51

Exactly. Spot on correct. And it's one of the 7 billion reasons that racism is still as potent and Number23 Dec 2015 #52

how is that different from the disclaimer we add for other groups? Amishman Dec 2015 #59

I was feeling nauseated... OneGrassRoot Dec 2015 #76

I was nauseated as well. But I'm used to it Number23 Dec 2015 #77

The writers at Salon romanic Dec 2015 #46

I think gun humpers are the biggest cowards on the planet Skittles Dec 2015 #48

White guys are killing us? Remarkable reverse racism. Yorktown Dec 2015 #49

There's no such thing as reverse racism. It's all one thing. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #54

agreed. Yorktown Dec 2015 #58

What about the statistics? Kang Colby Dec 2015 #55

This really does sound like a racist screed against whites pediatricmedic Dec 2015 #60

There is no racism against whites mwrguy Dec 2015 #61

Only if you subscribe to the idea of double standards Major Nikon Dec 2015 #85

lulz of the day Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #62

How about if we say that "men" are killing us. leftyladyfrommo Dec 2015 #66

Well... That was racist... TipTok Dec 2015 #67

Nice try mwrguy Dec 2015 #69

Ok - it was bigoted. Better? nt hack89 Dec 2015 #71

It's odd how folks will accept their bigotry with a level of honesty... TipTok Dec 2015 #74

According to folks who are looking to excuse their own racism... TipTok Dec 2015 #73

I keep hearing this repeated Major Nikon Dec 2015 #79

It's an academic definition... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #82

Without concensous that doesn't make it any less gibberish Major Nikon Dec 2015 #83

If only there was a way to get rid of those mean white guys... ileus Dec 2015 #68

Why would someone jamzrockz Dec 2015 #70

Evidently double standards make sense to some Major Nikon Dec 2015 #84

Racist, sexist trash jack_krass Dec 2015 #86