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In reply to the discussion: I want to make sure this accomplishment doesn't pass by unnoticed and unappreciated. [View all]JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Fix the TOS: Absolutely no bannings during primary season for saying you won't vote for one of the other candidates if they are nominated." After we have a nominee, then it's perfectly fine to ban someone at that point, if they then state they are voting for someone other than our nominee.
To show how ridiculous enforcing such a TOS as currently exists at DU is, just imagine if this were 'RU' (Republican Underground) with the same TOS in place. With 17 candidates in the running, and the candidates being who they are, I am positive that, prior to the GOP nomination, every single RU member would be saying they absolutely won't vote for at least several of the 17 candidates, and they would mean it. RU would be a ghost town and bankrupt within a month if that TOS was in force there.
First of all, we have an obligation to get the best Democratic presidential candidate into office. For the majority of Dems, that often means using the power of persuasion, (real speech as opposed to money) to present our case for who that is, right up to the second before we have our nominee. Including strongly held beliefs. Just like IRL, punishment should follow the deed, not the belief, or the stating of such belief.
Secondly, that TOS is being unevenly enforced against Sanders' supporters, and noticibly so. It is so blatant, that the OP of a grave-dancing thread about Manny being banned for violating that TOS (pre-nominee) had himself stated in a couple of his prior postings that he will never vote for Sanders should he become the nominee! Yes, THAT blatant.
Thirdly, the owners of DU are hardcore Clinton supporters. (Supposedly, a member of the owner's family was in the very top echelons of Clinton's campaign.) According to the owners, though, 89% of DUers are Sanders supporters. The owners' financial livlihood, and therefore their means of supporting Clinton, financially and otherwise is, at least partially, dependent on us Sanders supporters and the ad revenue and membership fees we generate for them. The optics of selectively banning top level Sanders's supporters (the old tactic of kill off the leaders to cripple and cower the multitudes in their army) for a TOS that is now being enforced before we have a nominee and selectively enforced at that, is, to put it mildly, atrocious.
Fourthly, yesterday, on several threads, I was advocating for the owners of DU to start a "Progressive Underground" forum site for us FDR progressives. Within hours, I was provided with links to a brand new, wonderful site, JackpineRadicals.org, started by others, that was built specifically to give us progressives a welcoming forum to network on. A good portion of my political postings probably will be there going forward.
And lastly, dear jury, if you have read this to the end, I am aware that this post is in violation of TOS. I have been here 10 years without a hide. This is a measured post that speaks to the unfairness, unequal protections and selective enforcment of this site's TOS. We often can not change the things that oppress us, unless we violate the very rules, laws or, in this case, TOSes that are used to enforce oppression. This site is a grain of sand on the scale of things that are important enough to take a stand on. I am taking a stand never-the-less. While I am prepared for a hide, I am asking that you support my stand with a jury nullification.