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In reply to the discussion: Yes, the CIA Director Was Part of the JFK Assassination Cover-Up [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)137. The CIA Keeps (Accidentally) Legitimizing JFK Conspiracy Theories
Now we learn that the CIA chief at the time did all he could to bury "incendiary" information.
BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
Esquire, OCT 7, 2015
It is somewhat lost to history what a writhing ball of snakes the national security establishment was during the three years of John F. Kennedy's presidency, especially after the collapse of the Bay of Pigs invasion and, subsequently, Kennedy's rejection of that establishment's more bellicose proposals during the Cuban Missile Crisis. These were the days of Operation Northwoods, a proposal from the Joint Chiefs of Staff to manufacture a casus belli that would have so inflamed American public opinion as to make an invasion of Cuba inevitable. One of the possibilities suggested in the memo was blowing up John Glenn on the launching pad at Cape Canaveral. The memo is stored in the archives of the Kennedy Library in Boston. I've held it in my hand. It is an altogether remarkable government document, and it made it all the way up the policy chain to the Secretary of Defense before Robert McNamara turned it off. That's what it was like back in those days.
(Which is not to say the Kennedy brothers didn't contribute to the atmosphere in their own way, with their off-the-books attempts to rid the world of Fidel Castro.)
So it should be no surprise that, after the president was murdered in Dallas, the national security establishment's first objective was not to tell the truth to the American people about how their president was snuffed in broad daylight. It was to concoct fictions and diversions, most devoted to bureaucratic ass-covering. This brings us to Philip Shenon's report today in the magazine version of Tiger Beat On The Potomac, in which Shenon tells us of how John McCone, who was put in charge of the CIA after Kennedy fired Allen Dulles, did all he could to bury "incendiary" information where the bumbling Warren Commission couldn't find it.
While I have neither the time nor the patience to go down America's deepest, darkest, and most mystical rabbit hole, I should note that I always thought this would be the fallback story if the Warren Commission's fabulism ever truly fell apart that Castro had ordered a retaliatory strike on the president and that the unsung heroes of our intelligence agencies kept the lid on it so as to prevent an overwhelming public outcry in favor of invading the island. In other words, the same complex network of operators and interests who wanted to blow up Glenn on the launching pad, when presented with an actual casus belli, chose instead to deceive the American people in the interest of hemispheric peace. OK.
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http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a38623/cia-jfk-conspiracy-theories/
PS: You are most welcome, smirkymonkey! Interesting times, these, when We the People are learning what has been done to Democracy in the name of national security.
BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
Esquire, OCT 7, 2015
It is somewhat lost to history what a writhing ball of snakes the national security establishment was during the three years of John F. Kennedy's presidency, especially after the collapse of the Bay of Pigs invasion and, subsequently, Kennedy's rejection of that establishment's more bellicose proposals during the Cuban Missile Crisis. These were the days of Operation Northwoods, a proposal from the Joint Chiefs of Staff to manufacture a casus belli that would have so inflamed American public opinion as to make an invasion of Cuba inevitable. One of the possibilities suggested in the memo was blowing up John Glenn on the launching pad at Cape Canaveral. The memo is stored in the archives of the Kennedy Library in Boston. I've held it in my hand. It is an altogether remarkable government document, and it made it all the way up the policy chain to the Secretary of Defense before Robert McNamara turned it off. That's what it was like back in those days.
(Which is not to say the Kennedy brothers didn't contribute to the atmosphere in their own way, with their off-the-books attempts to rid the world of Fidel Castro.)
So it should be no surprise that, after the president was murdered in Dallas, the national security establishment's first objective was not to tell the truth to the American people about how their president was snuffed in broad daylight. It was to concoct fictions and diversions, most devoted to bureaucratic ass-covering. This brings us to Philip Shenon's report today in the magazine version of Tiger Beat On The Potomac, in which Shenon tells us of how John McCone, who was put in charge of the CIA after Kennedy fired Allen Dulles, did all he could to bury "incendiary" information where the bumbling Warren Commission couldn't find it.
But did McCone come close to perjury all those decades ago? Did the onetime Washington outsider in fact hide agency secrets that might still rewrite the history of the assassination? Even the CIA is now willing to raise these questions. Half a century after JFK's death, in a once-secret report written in 2013 by the CIA's top in-house historian and quietly declassified last fall, the spy agency acknowledges what others were convinced of long ago: that McCone and other senior CIA officials were "complicit" in keeping "incendiary" information from the Warren Commission. According to the report by CIA historian David Robarge, McCone, who died in 1991, was at the heart of a "benign cover-up" at the spy agency, intended to keep the commission focused on "what the Agency believed at the time was the 'best truth'that Lee Harvey Oswald, for as yet undetermined motives, had acted alone in killing John Kennedy." The most important information that McCone withheld from the commission in its 1964 investigation, the report found, was the existence, for years, of CIA plots to assassinate Castro, some of which put the CIA in cahoots with the Mafia. Without this information, the commission never even knew to ask the question of whether Oswald had accomplices in Cuba or elsewhere who wanted Kennedy dead in retaliation for the Castro plots.
While I have neither the time nor the patience to go down America's deepest, darkest, and most mystical rabbit hole, I should note that I always thought this would be the fallback story if the Warren Commission's fabulism ever truly fell apart that Castro had ordered a retaliatory strike on the president and that the unsung heroes of our intelligence agencies kept the lid on it so as to prevent an overwhelming public outcry in favor of invading the island. In other words, the same complex network of operators and interests who wanted to blow up Glenn on the launching pad, when presented with an actual casus belli, chose instead to deceive the American people in the interest of hemispheric peace. OK.
CONTINUED...
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a38623/cia-jfk-conspiracy-theories/
PS: You are most welcome, smirkymonkey! Interesting times, these, when We the People are learning what has been done to Democracy in the name of national security.
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I read Specter's request as an admission of a coverup of the actual facts.
arthritisR_US
Dec 2015
#46
Next up .... chemtrails, mind control via vaccine, the pope piloted the 9/11 planes n/t
etherealtruth
Dec 2015
#56
So, evidence -- including what the Director of CIA did -- for conspiracy is to be hidden.
Octafish
Dec 2015
#80
Otca, where is the proof? This would be WORLD WIDE NEWS if it was proved. It is like all the....
Logical
Dec 2015
#86
I was 15 and nothing added up. I became suspicious with LBJ reading a few cold words in near nursery
Zen Democrat
Dec 2015
#128
Once no one is around who remembers, CIABCNNBCBSFauxNoiseNutworks can tell the tale.
Octafish
Dec 2015
#24
"The heart grows stronger by facing the evils of the world." -- Ludwig van Beethoven (Fidelio)
Octafish
Dec 2015
#57
Why Mr. Slawson is a hero -- even if he thinks Lee Harvey Oswald is the lone assassin.
Octafish
Dec 2015
#69
Wish that was taught in school, printed in the paper and broadcast on tee vee.
Octafish
Dec 2015
#70
Where and Why is JFK's brain missingj after it was in government hands?
Ichingcarpenter
Dec 2015
#44
JFK's doctor -- Admiral George Burkley -- thought more than one shooter was involved.
Octafish
Dec 2015
#71
C-SPAN has an excellent program discussing Lee Harvey Oswald, CIA and Mexico City
Octafish
Dec 2015
#145
If that were true, you wouldn't spend so much time trying to stop its discussion.
Octafish
Dec 2015
#102
The humor is that we are still discussing who did it when we know who did it. nt
Logical
Dec 2015
#105
FFS, you are gullible! How many murderers say "I didn't do it"??????? You have to be....
Logical
Dec 2015
#116
K & R and a million thanks, not only for the OP, but for the entire thread
mountain grammy
Dec 2015
#93
I'm adding this December 11, 2003 thread to this discussion, if it isn't already linked upthread
bobthedrummer
Dec 2015
#94
Here's an excellent thread from Bolo Boffin proving Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assassin:
cpwm17
Dec 2015
#106
I guess, then, the CIA and FBI would be part of a let-it-happen-on-purpose conspiracy. n/t
cpwm17
Dec 2015
#123
Vincent Bugliosi doesn't consider the Chicago Plot when talking about Oswald.
Octafish
Dec 2015
#112
You are most welcome, G_j! Politico seems to be bolstering Shenon's Dallas expertise.
Octafish
Dec 2015
#130
Movie please LOL but seriously, I never believed the official story...this is fascinating
randys1
Dec 2015
#126
It's amazing how so many people implicitly trust the government and think they are
smirkymonkey
Dec 2015
#138
Both McCone and Dulles hid CIA-Mafia assassination plots from Warren Commission and America
Octafish
Dec 2015
#139
Both McCone and Dulles hid monitoring of Oswald in New Orleans from Warren Commission and America...
Octafish
Dec 2015
#148
Excellent points. But if Oswald did it, why does secret government continue to cover-up?
Octafish
Dec 2015
#144