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hughee99

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18. I don't agree.

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:44 PM

Dec 2015

What you're suggesting is that president Obama would face the same opposition as "president" Ben Carson or "president" Herman Cain would have. If Obama were a republican, he would get a good bit of republican support. Yes, race is a factor for some, but PARTY is the first and foremost factor.

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Obama�s Two Mistakes That Lost The Country [View all] KamaAina Dec 2015 OP

I'll get flamed again. But I'm right musiclawyer Dec 2015 #1

Well, he accomplished a great deal, but some hold him to a different randys1 Dec 2015 #2

+100. n/t obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2015 #4

The racism he faced was and is so extreme Generic Other Dec 2015 #7

Every single person who is white who opposes Obama on ANY issue from the right randys1 Dec 2015 #9

I don't agree. hughee99 Dec 2015 #18

Race would work against Ben also, he would be a token for them. randys1 Dec 2015 #19

I didn't say race would HELP Ben, but to suggest that their opposition is, first and foremost, hughee99 Dec 2015 #23

BULLSHIT! There are plenty of examples of black Republicans FINALLY getting shitted Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2015 #95

When do they "get shitted on"? hughee99 Dec 2015 #96

It doesn't matter. The point is that they're BLACK! Eventually they learn... Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2015 #99

Since this discussion is about what white republicans think, how does being black hughee99 Dec 2015 #100

If you need to ask, that's your problem. I don't have time or the energy to explain to you Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2015 #110

I do need to ask. hughee99 Dec 2015 #111

Obama was good to labor Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #31

From the right means someone who is already a righty. If you oppose him on TPP as I do randys1 Dec 2015 #33

Is that an acknowledgement of Obama's conservative political positions? Marr Dec 2015 #41

Yup still_one Dec 2015 #26

He did rpannier Dec 2015 #84

Praise you!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2015 #93

no you're not. spanone Dec 2015 #5

No you're not sharp_stick Dec 2015 #14

Living in the past a bit brush Dec 2015 #16

Not to me. Who was running that would have been better? redstateblues Dec 2015 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author one_voice Dec 2015 #36

Nobody will flame you. But President Obama will go down in history akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #86

So-again it's Obama's fault that he saved the economy Progressive dog Dec 2015 #3

Regarding the economy and the wall street bailouts, he continued down the path Bush started GummyBearz Dec 2015 #42

Sure he did, that's why the economy improved dramatically, Progressive dog Dec 2015 #54

Corporations are obviously the dominant part of nearly every country's economy today GummyBearz Dec 2015 #63

Boeing may owe you a pension Progressive dog Dec 2015 #70

You honestly think a pension fund has never gone bankrupt? Honestly? GummyBearz Dec 2015 #72

It would've been cheaper and just as effective to simply have TransitJohn Dec 2015 #81

That is not even close to true Progressive dog Dec 2015 #122

Question for you TransitJohn Dec 2015 #123

He stalled the collapse. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #105

He collapsed it upward, he is a miracle worker Progressive dog Dec 2015 #121

I was not an Obama fan in 08 but he certainly exceeded comradebillyboy Dec 2015 #6

That isn't really the point of the article KamaAina Dec 2015 #8

Obama still being trashed on a Democratic website I see... zappaman Dec 2015 #10

Criticism is not trashing alarimer Dec 2015 #12

That's trashing? Are all critiques of authority trashing? Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #13

So when TPP passes and it will, we cannot complain and even be disappointed in the president? yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #27

it's called not being a swooner Skittles Dec 2015 #78

and it's not even needed now treestar Dec 2015 #89

Short-term memory is a real affliction BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #11

And it appears he will leave us with three wars and a financial system on the brink of collapse. Scuba Dec 2015 #76

Why do you even bother to post on a website BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #88

I'm not a cheerleader, I'm a citizen. Scuba Dec 2015 #90

Yes, I dispute what you said is correct ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #104

Which part do you dispute? The three wars? The financial system on the brink of failure? Scuba Dec 2015 #106

Both ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #112

I do know the market has doubled. If you were better informed you'd know that an inflated market.... Scuba Dec 2015 #114

So you've bought into all the Glenn Beck doom and gloom? ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #116

I'm sure a conservative like yourself would know a lot more about Beck than I, what with ... Scuba Dec 2015 #117

Enough to know you sound just like him... ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #118

Hey, you're the self-described conservative. You go join the teabaggers. Scuba Dec 2015 #119

Okay scoobs... ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #120

nice of the article to mention 2 huge causes of these problems and then say it's obama's fault unblock Dec 2015 #15

Well, commondreams are experts on losing alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #17

he didn't lose the country Enrique Dec 2015 #21

Um, take a walk up Capitol Hill and a tour of the statehouses. KamaAina Dec 2015 #22

And that is the fault of election fraud and gerrymandering. Look at how many states pnwmom Dec 2015 #25

My gosh gerrymandering is only with the house yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #30

Any proof that only 30 seats were lost due to gerrymandering? Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #38

"We lost over 900 seats." Except both the US Senate and House put together have fewer seats. pnwmom Dec 2015 #40

Way to overlook the state, county, and city levels GummyBearz Dec 2015 #43

He provided absolutely no context for that remark. If that is the case, pnwmom Dec 2015 #44

Add governor and all the state houses we lost. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #48

And none of this is Obama's fault, or even the DNC's. Why do you think pnwmom Dec 2015 #56

It is nobody's cumulative fault yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #59

The article in the OP says it is the fault of Obama and his mistakes. pnwmom Dec 2015 #60

I don't blame the president at all....maybe 5 percent. DNC 80 percent, voters 5 percent yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #61

How is a Republican winning a governor's race 1939 Dec 2015 #77

I believe more people voted for Democrats than republicans in the House and Senate pampango Dec 2015 #29

No. Not even close but I had hoped you were right. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #34

Good point. We only outvoted them (+1.5 million) in the House in 2012, not in 2010 and 2014. pampango Dec 2015 #35

Re incorrect info you might want to delete Post #30 for lack of any proof. Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #39

Links, please. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #45

Here you go yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #51

Where's the link to support your 900 seat claim? pnwmom Dec 2015 #57

I am still waiting for proof of Post #30 Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #58

Here ya go: fyi it's from the DNC--ever heard of them? truebluegreen Dec 2015 #73

The ACA was as populist a health plan as he could get through THAT Congress pnwmom Dec 2015 #24

This article fails to realize that padfun Dec 2015 #28

The word corporatist is devoid of meaning, the way people toss it around these days. pnwmom Dec 2015 #46

That old BS. truebluegreen Dec 2015 #75

Damn right. draa Dec 2015 #103

Sounds like another Nader voter redstateblues Dec 2015 #107

Truly an asinine post. truebluegreen Dec 2015 #108

Can't say I disagree with any of it.......In my opinion signing the ACA without a public option.... yourout Dec 2015 #32

I agree GummyBearz Dec 2015 #47

The whole country huh? one_voice Dec 2015 #37

No one will care GummyBearz Dec 2015 #49

He'll never win a 3rd term now!!!! JoePhilly Dec 2015 #50

A joke? What's so funny about it? KamaAina Dec 2015 #52

Other than being ridiculous? JoePhilly Dec 2015 #53

Ridiculous? Naomi Klein begs to differ. KamaAina Dec 2015 #55

Yea, read that ... its a good book ... still ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #68

Given that President Obama's campaign money came primarily guillaumeb Dec 2015 #62

Obama wasted a lot of the first part of his presidency trying to find middle ground and make nice hollowdweller Dec 2015 #64

President Obama declared he was President for all Americans! akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #87

Oh hell. OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #65

This says everything about how the people got screwed by Obama AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #66

That was no accident, either. Quantess Dec 2015 #79

The Oligarchs are geniuses, they put out a fake populist when the time is right for a real populist. AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #67

Ah- the straw men again- They are everywhere redstateblues Dec 2015 #69

Let me guess... He is Black and a Democrat? Egnever Dec 2015 #71

those are true but it's way more than that Skittles Dec 2015 #74

There are far too many bought-and-paid-for pols that would have never let him go after corporations. NCLefty Dec 2015 #80

The two things he did that created the RW "populist" movement were to be elected president twice. CBGLuthier Dec 2015 #82

He could have stopped it all by bringing the Bush Cabal up on war crimes. Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #83

Two mistakes that President Obama did -- I'll play, first of all, he akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #85

So the Clintons were "poor" LuvNewcastle Dec 2015 #102

Now is not the time to point fingers..... Hotler Dec 2015 #91

"Lost the country"?? Blue_Tires Dec 2015 #92

FUCK COMMON DREAMS FOR BLAMING OBAMA FOR AMERICA'S FUCKING RACISM!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2015 #94

well said tabasco Dec 2015 #97

Thank you for putting my thoughts into words. nt cry baby Dec 2015 #98

yup,FUCK THEM JI7 Dec 2015 #101

The premise here is that a nation addicted to white supremacy would actually follow a black prez MrScorpio Dec 2015 #109

Why post this obscenity here? Our country is definitely not 'lost'! lunatica Dec 2015 #113

The country is not "lost." On the contrary, it is infinitely better than when Obama took office. Green Forest Dec 2015 #115