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62. It would be hard to find more reactionary talking points...
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 09:14 PM
Dec 2015

at any pure right-wing haven on the net. Back up your claims with peer reviewed research and no the capitalist produced fairy tail the "black book of communism" doesn't count. You won't because you can't. Your claims are based purely on emotion and a vat of spoon fed propaganda you've been boiled in from birth.

Now on the other hand this is the reality of capitalism that you so righteously defend as "the end of history." While your hunting for the communist boogieman this is your lesson plan for the day...look up the figures on the the dead bodies produced by capitalism and all its far reaching tentacles across the globe over the last century. Start with the Shah of Iran, Marcos, Suharto, Ian Smith, Botha, Hitler, Franco, Mussolini, Martinez, Trujillo, Branco, Selassie, Samoza, Pinochet, Batista and a horde of other Capitalist autocrats and dictators that left a barbaric and bloody trail across the 20th century that totals hundreds of millions.



"Friends Of The United States And Capitalism "

by Dennis Bernstein and Laura Sydell

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Dictators/Friendly_Dictators.html


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Many of the world's most repressive dictators have been friends of America. Tyrants, torturers, killers, and sundry dictators and corrupt puppet-presidents have been aided, supported, and rewarded handsomely for their loyalty to US interests. Traditional dictators seize control through force, while constitutional dictators hold office through voting fraud or severely restricted elections, and are frequently puppets and apologists for the military juntas which control the ballot boxes. In any case, none have been democratically elected by the majority of their people in fair and open elections.

They are democratic America's undemocratic allies. They may rise to power through bloody ClA-backed coups and rule by terror and torture. Their troops may receive training or advice from the CIA and other US agencies. US military aid and weapons sales often strengthen their armies and guarantee their hold on power. Unwavering "anti-communism" and a willingness to provide unhampered access for American business interests to exploit their countries' natural resources and cheap labor are the excuses for their repression, and the primary reason the US government supports them. They may be linked internationalIy to extreme right-wing groups such as the World Anti-Communist League, and some have had strong Nazi affiliations and have offered sanctuary to WWll Nazi war criminals.

They usually grow rich, while their countries' economies deteriorate and the majority of their people live in poverty. US tax dollars and US-backed loans have made billionaires of some, while others are international drug dealers who also collect CIA paychecks. Rarely are they called to account for their crimes. And rarely still, is the US government held responsible for supporting and protecting some of the worst human rights violators in the world.
Friendly dictators

Abacha, General Sani ----------------------------Nigeria
Amin, Idi ------------------------------------------Uganda
Banzer, Colonel Hugo ---------------------------Bolivia
Batista, Fulgencio --------------------------------Cuba
Bolkiah, Sir Hassanal ----------------------------Brunei
Botha, P.W. ---------------------------------------South Africa
Branco, General Humberto ---------------------Brazil
Cedras, Raoul -------------------------------------Haiti
Cerezo, Vinicio -----------------------------------Guatemala
Chiang Kai-Shek ---------------------------------Taiwan
Cordova, Roberto Suazo ------------------------Honduras
Christiani, Alfredo -------------------------------El Salvador
Diem, Ngo Dihn ---------------------------------Vietnam
Doe, General Samuel ----------------------------Liberia
Duvalier, Francois --------------------------------Haiti
Duvalier, Jean Claude-----------------------------Haiti
Fahd bin'Abdul-'Aziz, King ---------------------Saudi Arabia
Franco, General Francisco -----------------------Spain
Hitler, Adolf ---------------------------------------Germany
Hassan II-------------------------------------------Morocco
Marcos, Ferdinand -------------------------------Philippines
Martinez, General Maximiliano Hernandez ---El Salvador
Mobutu Sese Seko -------------------------------Zaire
Noriega, General Manuel ------------------------Panama
Ozal, Turgut --------------------------------------Turkey
Pahlevi, Shah Mohammed Reza ---------------Iran
Papadopoulos, George --------------------------Greece
Park Chung Hee ---------------------------------South Korea
Pinochet, General Augusto ---------------------Chile
Pol Pot---------------------------------------------Cambodia
Rabuka, General Sitiveni ------------------------Fiji
Montt, General Efrain Rios ---------------------Guatemala
Salassie, Halie ------------------------------------Ethiopia
Salazar, Antonio de Oliveira --------------------Portugal
Somoza, Anastasio Jr. --------------------------Nicaragua
Somoza, Anastasio, Sr. -------------------------Nicaragua
Smith, Ian ----------------------------------------Rhodesia
Stroessner, Alfredo -----------------------------Paraguay
Suharto, General ---------------------------------Indonesia
Trujillo, Rafael Leonidas -----------------------Dominican Republic
Videla, General Jorge Rafael ------------------Argentina
Zia Ul-Haq, Mohammed ----------------------Pakistan

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Capitalism, Fascism and World War 2

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Capitalism_Fascism_WW2.html

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"Most Americans know enough about the Nazi holocaust to thoroughly despise the horrible events that occurred- the torture, executions, concentration camps, forced starvation, gas chambers and the attempted extermination of the Jews. I wonder what Americans would think if they knew that the part of this Nazi terror apparatus which operated on the Russian front was incorporated into the CIA after World War 2. The Nazi SS officer was Reinhard Gehlen, and he and his group were employed by the CIA for their knowledge of the Soviet Union. The SS death squads that followed the German advance into the Soviet Union were very brutal,killing any communists and Jews they found. The CIA used Nazi war criminals like Klaus Barbie, Walter Rauff, Otto Skorzeny and others in South America to impart their knowledge of torture techniques and concentration camps to the police and militaries there. Klaus Barbie was involved in the 1980 Bolivian coup known as the "cocaine coup" that is described in former DEA agent Michael Levine's book The Big White Lie."

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"American corporations invested heavily in Nazi Germany, and many like General Motors and Ford had factories there, which also used slave labor and produced war materials for the Nazis. US corporate investment in Germany accelerated rapidly after Hitler came to power. Investment increased 48.5% between 1929 and 1940, while declining in the rest of continental Europe. American bombers deliberately avoided hitting these US factories, and they received compensation from the American taxpayer for any damage after the war. US oil companies sold oil to the Nazis and oil on credit to the fascists in Spain."

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"Many American capitalists were openly sympathetic to the Nazis. Henry Ford wrote a book called The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem, and he is mentioned in Mein Kampf. James Mooney, the General Motors executive in charge of European operations, was awarded the Order of Merit of the Golden Eagle by Adolph Hitler. There were op-ed pieces by Nazis like Hermann Goehring in Hearst newspapers in the United States."

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"The Nazis broke unions, lowered wages, abolished overtime pay, decreased business taxes and increased business subsidies."


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Richard D. Wolff-everyone's favorite self avowed Marxist redstateblues Dec 2015 #1
And? marmar Dec 2015 #2
Marxism was a failure in the 20th century redstateblues Dec 2015 #3
Perhaps you should read his critiques. marmar Dec 2015 #4
The Soviet Union bastardized Marx's ideas. Marx didn't call for state control of anything. He saw Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #10
There was a political movement in the late 1890s and early 1900s like that. Igel Dec 2015 #52
"Marxism" wasn't really tried in the 20th Century TransitJohn Dec 2015 #11
The U.S.S.R. was socialist in name only. TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #24
And how exactly is that relevant to the problems of capitalism? Bubzer Dec 2015 #35
Marxism EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #41
Marx was right about the capitalism end-game, even if his solution wasn't. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #77
DURec leftstreet Dec 2015 #5
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #6
No, Wolff, we've no interest in communism LittleBlue Dec 2015 #7
Neither does Richard Wolff. marmar Dec 2015 #8
He's just another Marxist hack who had to modify his position after the fall of the soviets LittleBlue Dec 2015 #12
Worker co-ops are "totalitarian" ? marmar Dec 2015 #15
It's not going to work LittleBlue Dec 2015 #17
Nothing has killed more people than the capitalist exploitation of this planet.... marmar Dec 2015 #19
Wrong! LittleBlue Dec 2015 #21
Like Greece, Spain, Portugal and the other capitalist basket cases? marmar Dec 2015 #23
They're far, far wealthier than any communist nation LittleBlue Dec 2015 #25
Who's advocating communism? It's not the only alternative to capitalism. marmar Dec 2015 #28
That's where Marxism leads LittleBlue Dec 2015 #29
"because it's the only one that can exist without totalitarian force" marmar Dec 2015 #32
Nope. Every country in the world has already adopted capitalism because it proved the best LittleBlue Dec 2015 #33
Huge steaming pile. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #49
Yet nothing to prove Blue wrong, huh? 7962 Dec 2015 #57
Your posts in this thread are a grossly inefficient failure... AOR Dec 2015 #59
What does that refute? Primitive societies were primitive LittleBlue Dec 2015 #63
It refutes without a shred of doubt... AOR Dec 2015 #64
Then why have we been capitalist since the fall of hunter gatherer societies? LittleBlue Dec 2015 #69
Ha!Yet none of them LIVE in one of those paradises either do they? 7962 Dec 2015 #72
They should try a few days in North Korea LittleBlue Dec 2015 #74
You are truely lost and it makes me more than a "little blue" to have to explain... AOR Dec 2015 #75
Maybe you should research how changing to capitalism saved the colonists. 7962 Dec 2015 #73
Indeed.. AOR Dec 2015 #76
Ha. What a weak response. But pretty much what i expected. 7962 Dec 2015 #85
Horseshit. Stalin himself is responsible for then of millions killed. 7962 Dec 2015 #56
The tattered ghost of Joe McCarthy would be proud... AOR Dec 2015 #60
The usual; insults but nothing to back it up. Sorry the truth hurts your feelings. 7962 Dec 2015 #70
Well you see... AOR Dec 2015 #78
Finally we agree; you deserve what you get. 7962 Dec 2015 #86
Necessarily so, in practice. Igel Dec 2015 #53
You're using Forbes.com as a credible source? TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #27
Keep drinking the red sauce. Capitalism won LittleBlue Dec 2015 #30
Fine, stay in the 20th century and let the rest of the world leave you behind. TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #40
I will. And we'll continue to grow LittleBlue Dec 2015 #43
Good luck! TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #45
It would be hard to find more reactionary talking points... AOR Dec 2015 #62
I can understand why you feel that way... Wounded Bear Dec 2015 #9
Capitalism has enriched the masses more than any other idea in history LittleBlue Dec 2015 #14
+1 TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #46
Capitalism is designed to impoverish the masses, it is working as designed Vincardog Dec 2015 #13
It isn't, actually LittleBlue Dec 2015 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Vincardog Dec 2015 #22
99.99999% of China was in poverty under communism LittleBlue Dec 2015 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Vincardog Dec 2015 #34
Because China switched to capitalism LittleBlue Dec 2015 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Vincardog Dec 2015 #38
Uh no we did it right LittleBlue Dec 2015 #42
Nice job on this thread Yorktown Dec 2015 #88
Capitalism is like a religion to some. TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #31
This. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #50
Let me know next time you want to take a trip to Newark New Jersey... AOR Dec 2015 #68
That's because you're talking about poverty in relative terms LittleBlue Dec 2015 #71
People are starving to death every day all over the world... AOR Dec 2015 #80
People routinely starved under feudalism. We ended starvation for the vast majority of the world LittleBlue Dec 2015 #87
Thanks for the post. TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #18
He has been giving the same lecture for years. Throd Dec 2015 #37
I hope he continues. TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #44
I bet most of DU doesn't even know who he is. Throd Dec 2015 #47
With all undue respect, Richard Wolff is an ass Yorktown Dec 2015 #20
Well said LittleBlue Dec 2015 #39
Good work little blue redstateblues Dec 2015 #48
Yes "fine work" indeed... AOR Dec 2015 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author MFrohike Dec 2015 #83
Ah, you're one of those people who feels the west needs to be brought back to reality through Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #51
I am not judging, merely recording an inevitable fact Yorktown Dec 2015 #66
Capitalism is far from the default position. Igel Dec 2015 #54
Are you suggesting feudalism is an attractive substitute for free markets? Yorktown Dec 2015 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author MFrohike Dec 2015 #82
If Professor Wolff believes that more democracy... meaculpa2011 Dec 2015 #55
He's an academic doing what academics do. Working in academia. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #58
Capitalism is a religion to many selfish Americans U4ikLefty Dec 2015 #61
The fact that people on this thread are flogging GDP Ron Green Dec 2015 #79
Private Equity & Holding Cos KT2000 Dec 2015 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author MFrohike Dec 2015 #84
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