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Divernan

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79. My 3 kids have 4 masters degrees between them

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 05:37 AM

Dec 2015

and because of those advanced degrees, they all have secure, well-paying jobs with employers who still even provide pension plans.

I consider motivating them and providing partial financial support to get grad. degrees to be one of the most important things I did as a single parent.

Best value/return on tuition cost was the daughter who was able to move back home with me, and get an MBA from a well regarded university in an accelerated 10 month program. Yes, everyone had student loans, but made enough to be able to live decently and pay them off in about 5 years.

Caveat: keep the hella away from law schools. I went to law school at age 40 - and subsequently taught at one for a couple of years back in the 90's. Even then there was a surplus of law grads and it's gotten so bad that recent grads (unless from a top tier school PLUS having a family connection to a firm or corporation) are lucky to be making $20 an hour, with no benefits, working as what is called a "contract" lawyer. That involves being in a warehouse size room with other contract lawyers, each with their own card table, folding metal chair and computer, doing document review. Timed bathroom breaks. Of course, their work is billed out at $200 an hour or more. And that, kiddies, is how $$$ are siphoned up to the One Percent. Ain't America great!!!???!!!

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Tell everyone in the USA that they are worthless crap without a college degree [View all] whereisjustice Dec 2015 OP

Preach it! Throd Dec 2015 #1

Remember the days where everyone was yelling, "all graduates should go to college" yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #52

My 3 kids have 4 masters degrees between them Divernan Dec 2015 #79

Yep, so true about law schools skepticscott Dec 2015 #88

I am so happy to hear that about your kids. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #89

Try having n Master's Degree....... mrmpa Dec 2015 #100

Yep. I've talked to pizza delivery people my whole life and they seem to have a common story. BlueJazz Dec 2015 #101

When I was teaching (2 years)............. mrmpa Dec 2015 #106

That absolutely sucks that they rate you low. Divernan Dec 2015 #118

You're right about the Masters, but you also, more and more, need the mobility maddiemom Dec 2015 #96

Because the other one $tand$ $taunchly by her $pon$or$ hobbit709 Dec 2015 #2

Exactly, she should wear their corporate logos like nascar drivers do peacebird Dec 2015 #38

Tone of your po$t wa$ very $HrILL! Divernan Dec 2015 #77

Truth. romanic Dec 2015 #3

Hear, hear! nt Mnemosyne Dec 2015 #4

I remember who told us we all to get college degrees KentuckyWoman Dec 2015 #5

Conservative Dems have no problem scolding the Iraq vet who got his Cisco certs and lost his whereisjustice Dec 2015 #9

+1000. HughBeaumont Dec 2015 #85

It was before Reagan. Igel Dec 2015 #17

Point well taken KentuckyWoman Dec 2015 #36

We were sold a bill of goods on every front simultaneously. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #34

Yes we were, Enthusiast! Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #69

Happy Holidays to you, Dont call me Shirley! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #82

How true... MattSh Dec 2015 #94

Pretty much preaching to the choir here PersonNumber503602 Dec 2015 #6

Great post Blus4u Dec 2015 #7

Oh, and don't forget to tell them .. . . HughBeaumont Dec 2015 #8

too funny NJCher Dec 2015 #65

These things do NOT happen by accident. bvar22 Dec 2015 #10

+1 Well said. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #18

+2 TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #21

Yes! Wake the fuck up! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #33

+4 Octafish Dec 2015 #37

You do this to me Octafish... haikugal Dec 2015 #74

"Job Creators", my ARSE. HughBeaumont Dec 2015 #87

If all those Wal-Mart kids died tomorrow TheFarseer Dec 2015 #126

Yup. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #110

ready for free college education? mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #11

Before Bill, Obama, Hillary and Reagan... bvar22 Dec 2015 #45

in some states mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #56

Very good point. whereisjustice Dec 2015 #70

still doesn't matter if there aren't any "good" jobs. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2015 #48

What?!? chervilant Dec 2015 #59

margaret mead....love her thanks mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #66

Where is there FREE 2 year college? AllyCat Dec 2015 #84

some states have free four year mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #129

The free part is fine but keep in mind that degrees will be required to work at McDonald's yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #113

you are not thinking.... mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #128

Well I agree with that and those jobs publish what they require yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #130

the economic mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #131

And don't forget to tell them their financial difficulties... KansDem Dec 2015 #12

for those making $300K+ off investments it seems to be working out MisterP Dec 2015 #13

Bernie plans to tax Capital Gains as Income. bvar22 Dec 2015 #19

Totally... daleanime Dec 2015 #25

Bernie wants to, so do I. Wont be able to, but great idea. randys1 Dec 2015 #28

It is absurd that we don't tax capital gains as regular income already. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #31

"Well, that simply didn't happen" KansDem Dec 2015 #83

I think we're about 30 years past the idea that "job creators" create jobs because they have money. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #112

Which means, bvar22 Dec 2015 #121

Yes. Exactly. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #122

Even seniors living off their 410K? It's small enough yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #133

This in itself is reason enough to support Bernie. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #111

The Conservatives, both Democratic and Republicons, love their capitalism. They love rhett o rick Dec 2015 #14

And in the very next breath... 2naSalit Dec 2015 #15

I am in a similar situation. chervilant Dec 2015 #61

I don't even get interviews 2naSalit Dec 2015 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author saturnsring Dec 2015 #16

K & R AzDar Dec 2015 #20

K & R ! TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #22

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #23

Or you could ignore bad advice. wildeyed Dec 2015 #24

If you consider "EDUCATION" to be solely about making money, bvar22 Dec 2015 #27

Yes, like I said, wildeyed Dec 2015 #39

No. "People" do not assume that. bvar22 Dec 2015 #46

Haha! wildeyed Dec 2015 #53

Congrats! You won the capitalism lottery. My, aren't you KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #102

Yep wildeyed Dec 2015 #124

There is something that does prevent people from doing that on their own, bvar22 Dec 2015 #47

I am not telling anyone to pull themselves up by any boots straps. wildeyed Dec 2015 #55

+Infinity! - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #104

In my experience college debt is one of those barriers. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #116

Everybody needs this sort of education. EVERYBODY, good student in high school or not. alarimer Dec 2015 #42

Great point on Supportive Marty McGraw Dec 2015 #44

Oh please. wildeyed Dec 2015 #51

I'm with you airplaneman Dec 2015 #57

It's disappointing that I had to scroll this far to read this Lordquinton Dec 2015 #72

LOL Skittles Dec 2015 #75

wall street doesn't manufacture anything, so they do not care about a middle class La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2015 #30

Someone has to buy something wildeyed Dec 2015 #40

wallstreet does fine under an oligarchy, they did fine before we had a middle class (think 1920's La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2015 #41

There's nothing wrong with what you say... PosterChild Dec 2015 #67

Ix-nay on the law school option Divernan Dec 2015 #80

Lot of democrats point this out, including my mayor. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2015 #26

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #29

... LittleBlue Dec 2015 #32

Don't forget that if you own a home or have any savings it all goes for end care and medical. glinda Dec 2015 #35

If we could convince people that a piece of paper is just that we'd be better off. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #43

I love your last line Not Sure Dec 2015 #114

The for-profit schools don't come out and say it, instead they show some guy and how Rex Dec 2015 #49

H1B visas are going to be the ultimate solution to the healthcare crisis. JVS Dec 2015 #50

Great post, thanks whereisjustice!! Scuba Dec 2015 #54

You are very welcome! whereisjustice Dec 2015 #58

I kind of get where you're coming from, but put down the pipe. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #60

Then, when someone supports free college Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #63

then, full-circle pay Professors like fast food workers JCMach1 Dec 2015 #64

Huh, I was thinking along similar lines just a few hours ago Babel_17 Dec 2015 #68

We are all thinking along these lines. harun Dec 2015 #90

K&R nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #71

Don't forget the part about making student debt not dischargeable through tblue37 Dec 2015 #73

What a horrid burden to put on your young people just as they are starting out in life. CrispyQ Dec 2015 #95

Brilliant post. Thank you. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #76

Neither side is right davidpdx Dec 2015 #78

I tried to get a college degree ... I yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #81

Having fewer years of education doesnt mean you are "less educated"!! 7962 Dec 2015 #98

That kind of smart saved me from being yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #99

And Cal is one of those "cheap, affordable" public universitities! Arugula Latte Dec 2015 #105

UT and Texas A&M were that way too. Rex Dec 2015 #108

Well I have a college degree and learned over an extended career Rex Dec 2015 #107

And then double down skepticscott Dec 2015 #86

And in the case of the financial meltdown d_legendary1 Dec 2015 #92

I did just fine without a college degree. I somehow managed to put a son B Calm Dec 2015 #91

I think there is more than one, even nationally...(segues into local because all politics is local.) Chan790 Dec 2015 #93

The most successful people I know dont have a college degree. 7962 Dec 2015 #97

And then scold them for both not saving enough and spending enough to keep the economy ticking along Arugula Latte Dec 2015 #103

Capital always wins. But there's always someone who will sell pitchforks. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #109

Reminds me of "Capitalists will sell us the rope with which to hang them," attributed KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #125

I dropped out of college as soon as I realized I could be an artist without a degree Not Sure Dec 2015 #115

With massive college debt, you couldn't afford to be an artist. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #117

Very true Not Sure Dec 2015 #123

I am all aboard for free college plus some living expenses Kalidurga Dec 2015 #119

I have been saying this since 2009...it's the new ed reform policy!!! madfloridian Dec 2015 #120

Ted Rall 1996 "College is for Suckers". JanMichael Dec 2015 #127

Why is that? Why hasn't this been locked? joeybee12 Dec 2015 #132