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72. The point is, the evidence isn't at all clear who ordered the sarin attacks

Sat Dec 26, 2015, 12:31 PM

Dec 2015

Here's another source that reported the original FP report that was later edited out:

U.S. spies certain Assad used nerve gas 'after intercepting phone call from panicking Syrian def...
Daily Mail ^ | August 28, 2013 | Amanda Williams and Jill Reilly

The U.S is confident that Syria was behind the deadly chemical weapons attack after intercepting a phone call from a Syrian defence chief demanding an explanation from its chemical weapon military unit for the action, according to new claims.

Just hours after the attack last Wednesday an official at the Syrian Ministry of Defense exchanged panicked phone calls with a leader of the unit, demanding answers, according to website Foreign Policy.

(. . .)

'It's unclear where control lies,' one U.S. intelligence official told The Cable. 'Is there just some sort of general blessing to use these things? Or are there explicit orders for each attack?'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2403778/Syria-crisis-U-S-spies-certain-Assad-used-nerve-gas-intercepting-defence-chief.html#ixzz3vRf9Ogzc

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2403778/Syria-crisis-U-S-spies-certain-Assad-used-nerve-gas-intercepting-defence-chief.html

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Maybe President Assad didn't "Gas his own people" after all? [View all] another_liberal Dec 2015 OP

WWW.RT.Com? GGJohn Dec 2015 #1

Then why not leave the commenting to those who are less close-minded . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #3

Excuse me, GGJohn Dec 2015 #6

Like I said . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #10

What new evidence? GGJohn Dec 2015 #12

We went to war on a pack of lies once. No matter the source jwirr Dec 2015 #65

What needs to be followed up? GGJohn Dec 2015 #68

Yes, there were a lot of "claims" before we overthrew the jwirr Dec 2015 #75

How do you know this hasn't already been looked into and found to be not credible? GGJohn Dec 2015 #77

Well I did not claim that it had not been looked into but I still jwirr Dec 2015 #79

1 Turkish opposition official, who probably has an axe to grind against Ergodan, GGJohn Dec 2015 #80

talk about closed minded Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #15

But American media has become utter crap Cayenne Dec 2015 #106

No disclosed evidence that Assad gave command orders. Quite the opposite: intercepts of phone leveymg Dec 2015 #64

Now that's a better source, GGJohn Dec 2015 #66

The point is, the evidence isn't at all clear who ordered the sarin attacks leveymg Dec 2015 #72

Thank you for some credible sources, unlike what the OP provides. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #73

You're welcome. One can conclude the point of posting from discredited sources is to "poison the leveymg Dec 2015 #74

Does it really make that much of a difference. Bad Dog Dec 2015 #2

Actually . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #5

..... GGJohn Dec 2015 #8

Here are a few . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #31

LOL. GGJohn Dec 2015 #38

well I looked at the Washington post Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #39

Guardian says just about the same thing, GGJohn Dec 2015 #49

yes, had to laugh at that one Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #50

He probably figured we wouldn't even read the articles, GGJohn Dec 2015 #52

I am sure he will provide a link Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #53

Assad has killed thousands of Syrian people & now with buddie Putin thousands more die. Sunlei Dec 2015 #4

How many hundreds of thousands of people have we killed? another_liberal Dec 2015 #7

Hmmm, very interesting that you refuse to answer the question, GGJohn Dec 2015 #9

Pardon me? another_liberal Dec 2015 #11

Still diverting? GGJohn Dec 2015 #14

Sunlei didn't ask a question. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #103

And Russia is innocent as the morning snows? Get real. I remember talking to you about Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #33

some don't let facts matter sadly Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #37

probably millions by now if you count Indians and slaves. doesn't make assad less of a mass killer. Sunlei Dec 2015 #29

Not in our own country treestar Dec 2015 #87

Killing more people ronnie624 Dec 2015 #100

I was merely pointing out the difference the previous poster overlooked treestar Dec 2015 #101

It's quite obvious what you meant. ronnie624 Dec 2015 #113

Russian Times is a government propaganda outfit with less credibilty than a CIA new release. nt Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #13

Russias Gov. recently took over ALL news services and started stricter control of their internet. Sunlei Dec 2015 #36

This belongs in Creative Speculation Kaleva Dec 2015 #16

I disagree completely! another_liberal Dec 2015 #19

What "quashed investigation into his own government's wrong-doing"? GGJohn Dec 2015 #24

OFFS NuclearDem Dec 2015 #17

Russian state-run media Assad apologists oberliner Dec 2015 #18

Your opinion . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #21

That's not an opinion, that's a fact, GGJohn Dec 2015 #23

Right wing trolls, too, who work to shut down discussion. Octafish Dec 2015 #25

I rest my case. GGJohn Dec 2015 #27

Emoticons for Lockheed Martin! Octafish Dec 2015 #40

Consortium News? GGJohn Dec 2015 #44

Investigative reporter Robert Parry is winner of 2015 IF Stone Medal for Journalistic Independence. proverbialwisdom Dec 2015 #70

Robert Parry is a colossal CT nut. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #71

Again, award link-> http://nieman.harvard.edu/awards/i-f-stone-medal-for-journalistic-independence/ proverbialwisdom Dec 2015 #76

So what? GGJohn Dec 2015 #78

I don't follow his work at all, but it's clear your efforts to apply the CT tag are misguided. proverbialwisdom Dec 2015 #81

If you don't follow his work at all, then how do you know my saying he's a CT nut GGJohn Dec 2015 #82

I try to be familiar with http://nieman.harvard.edu/ and recently saw this. Check it out. proverbialwisdom Dec 2015 #89

Yes, he was, at one time, a fine reporter, but in the last few years, GGJohn Dec 2015 #90

And Henry Kissenger won the Nobel Peace Prize mythology Dec 2015 #107

That's exactly what Oliver North and Dick Cheney said about Robert Parry. Octafish Dec 2015 #83

You know what they say about a broken clock and all, GGJohn Dec 2015 #84

For most of my life, this subject was career suicide to academics and journalists. Octafish Dec 2015 #98

Kremlin trolls are right wing, this is 2015. Russia is an oligrachy and not a communist Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #35

Unlike our Kleptocracy. Octafish Dec 2015 #43

But that's all they have is "the US did it too MOM!" treestar Dec 2015 #88

You'd really say that I was defending Russian atrocities? Octafish Dec 2015 #99

Not you in particular treestar Dec 2015 #102

The democratic perspective is to listen to all sources of information. Octafish Dec 2015 #104

Well we know whose point of view we are getting in RT treestar Dec 2015 #105

Yeah, but RT never said Saddam Hussein was a threat to the USA. Octafish Dec 2015 #110

"The democratic perspective is to listen to all sources of information" EX500rider Dec 2015 #108

Did I say you had to agree? Octafish Dec 2015 #109

You certainly have the right to pass on authoritarian govt propaganda.. EX500rider Dec 2015 #111

The torture-dungeons of the Assad-regime: DetlefK Dec 2015 #20

Sounds like the American Pot calling the Syrian kettle black . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #22

And there you go attempting to divert again. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #26

Are DU'ers not allowed to call kettles black regardless of whose kettle it is? pampango Dec 2015 #30

Are you implying that two torture-dungeons make a right? DetlefK Dec 2015 #32

Very interesting malaise Dec 2015 #28

You are welcome . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #34

Nothing surprises me anymore malaise Dec 2015 #41

Pro intervention? GGJohn Dec 2015 #42

DU more and more resembles Freeperville in the attempts of some to censor information CJCRANE Dec 2015 #45

Who's censoring foreign news sources? GGJohn Dec 2015 #46

Just like Freepers did with Al Jazeera. CJCRANE Dec 2015 #47

Coming from Kremlin controlled sources and Assad being their boy? GGJohn Dec 2015 #48

Challenging poor sources is important Bonx Dec 2015 #85

Maybe I'll start farting Chanel perfume and RT can come and do a story on it. n/t tabasco Dec 2015 #51

Russia kills top Syrian Rebel leader edhopper Dec 2015 #54

They do attack organizations and individuals in rebellion against the Syrian authorities . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #57

So you not only back Putin edhopper Dec 2015 #67

Don't put words in my mouth . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #96

Sure you don't edhopper Dec 2015 #97

Sure I don't what? another_liberal Dec 2015 #112

Very few times has the Russian Air Force attacked ISIL. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #69

Documents show how Russia's troll army hit America stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #55

Have you ever considered . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #59

Growing number of American? GGJohn Dec 2015 #62

Go outside . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #93

So, IOW, you don't have a link? GGJohn Dec 2015 #94

You don't need one . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #95

How is your buddy out west doing? HERVEPA Dec 2015 #56

You'll have to be a bit more specific . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #58

Oh, don't be so coy, GGJohn Dec 2015 #60

And . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #61

Uh huh. GGJohn Dec 2015 #63

Are you going to tell me what you're talking about or not . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #91

Our allies in the region certainly do not have a good track record. NT JEB Dec 2015 #86

They aren't allies of the American people anyway . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #92

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