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hughee99

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111. I do need to ask.

Reply to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #110)

Sat Dec 26, 2015, 03:02 PM

Dec 2015

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How does being black make you able to able to read white republicans minds? Is it a magic power you (and others) have or do you just spend a lot of time having honest and open discussions with white republicans?

I'm not questioning your experience with racism, or what you believe to be true, but you were suggesting that you have a special ability to read white republicans minds that I do not have, and I'd like to know, specifically how you came to have such a remarkable ability?

In most arguments, one can get away with, "if you're not black, you can't understand and I can't explain it to you". And if the argument were about what black people think, I wouldn't really be able to counter that. Unfortunately, because we're discussing what WHITE people think, this is one of the few situations where you can't simply say "I'm not going to make an actual argument, but I'm black and therefore I know better."

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Obama�s Two Mistakes That Lost The Country [View all] KamaAina Dec 2015 OP

I'll get flamed again. But I'm right musiclawyer Dec 2015 #1

Well, he accomplished a great deal, but some hold him to a different randys1 Dec 2015 #2

+100. n/t obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2015 #4

The racism he faced was and is so extreme Generic Other Dec 2015 #7

Every single person who is white who opposes Obama on ANY issue from the right randys1 Dec 2015 #9

I don't agree. hughee99 Dec 2015 #18

Race would work against Ben also, he would be a token for them. randys1 Dec 2015 #19

I didn't say race would HELP Ben, but to suggest that their opposition is, first and foremost, hughee99 Dec 2015 #23

BULLSHIT! There are plenty of examples of black Republicans FINALLY getting shitted Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2015 #95

When do they "get shitted on"? hughee99 Dec 2015 #96

It doesn't matter. The point is that they're BLACK! Eventually they learn... Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2015 #99

Since this discussion is about what white republicans think, how does being black hughee99 Dec 2015 #100

If you need to ask, that's your problem. I don't have time or the energy to explain to you Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2015 #110

I do need to ask. hughee99 Dec 2015 #111

Obama was good to labor Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #31

From the right means someone who is already a righty. If you oppose him on TPP as I do randys1 Dec 2015 #33

Is that an acknowledgement of Obama's conservative political positions? Marr Dec 2015 #41

Yup still_one Dec 2015 #26

He did rpannier Dec 2015 #84

Praise you!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2015 #93

no you're not. spanone Dec 2015 #5

No you're not sharp_stick Dec 2015 #14

Living in the past a bit brush Dec 2015 #16

Not to me. Who was running that would have been better? redstateblues Dec 2015 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author one_voice Dec 2015 #36

Nobody will flame you. But President Obama will go down in history akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #86

So-again it's Obama's fault that he saved the economy Progressive dog Dec 2015 #3

Regarding the economy and the wall street bailouts, he continued down the path Bush started GummyBearz Dec 2015 #42

Sure he did, that's why the economy improved dramatically, Progressive dog Dec 2015 #54

Corporations are obviously the dominant part of nearly every country's economy today GummyBearz Dec 2015 #63

Boeing may owe you a pension Progressive dog Dec 2015 #70

You honestly think a pension fund has never gone bankrupt? Honestly? GummyBearz Dec 2015 #72

It would've been cheaper and just as effective to simply have TransitJohn Dec 2015 #81

That is not even close to true Progressive dog Dec 2015 #122

Question for you TransitJohn Dec 2015 #123

He stalled the collapse. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #105

He collapsed it upward, he is a miracle worker Progressive dog Dec 2015 #121

I was not an Obama fan in 08 but he certainly exceeded comradebillyboy Dec 2015 #6

That isn't really the point of the article KamaAina Dec 2015 #8

Obama still being trashed on a Democratic website I see... zappaman Dec 2015 #10

Criticism is not trashing alarimer Dec 2015 #12

That's trashing? Are all critiques of authority trashing? Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #13

So when TPP passes and it will, we cannot complain and even be disappointed in the president? yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #27

it's called not being a swooner Skittles Dec 2015 #78

and it's not even needed now treestar Dec 2015 #89

Short-term memory is a real affliction BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #11

And it appears he will leave us with three wars and a financial system on the brink of collapse. Scuba Dec 2015 #76

Why do you even bother to post on a website BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #88

I'm not a cheerleader, I'm a citizen. Scuba Dec 2015 #90

Yes, I dispute what you said is correct ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #104

Which part do you dispute? The three wars? The financial system on the brink of failure? Scuba Dec 2015 #106

Both ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #112

I do know the market has doubled. If you were better informed you'd know that an inflated market.... Scuba Dec 2015 #114

So you've bought into all the Glenn Beck doom and gloom? ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #116

I'm sure a conservative like yourself would know a lot more about Beck than I, what with ... Scuba Dec 2015 #117

Enough to know you sound just like him... ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #118

Hey, you're the self-described conservative. You go join the teabaggers. Scuba Dec 2015 #119

Okay scoobs... ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #120

nice of the article to mention 2 huge causes of these problems and then say it's obama's fault unblock Dec 2015 #15

Well, commondreams are experts on losing alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #17

he didn't lose the country Enrique Dec 2015 #21

Um, take a walk up Capitol Hill and a tour of the statehouses. KamaAina Dec 2015 #22

And that is the fault of election fraud and gerrymandering. Look at how many states pnwmom Dec 2015 #25

My gosh gerrymandering is only with the house yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #30

Any proof that only 30 seats were lost due to gerrymandering? Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #38

"We lost over 900 seats." Except both the US Senate and House put together have fewer seats. pnwmom Dec 2015 #40

Way to overlook the state, county, and city levels GummyBearz Dec 2015 #43

He provided absolutely no context for that remark. If that is the case, pnwmom Dec 2015 #44

Add governor and all the state houses we lost. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #48

And none of this is Obama's fault, or even the DNC's. Why do you think pnwmom Dec 2015 #56

It is nobody's cumulative fault yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #59

The article in the OP says it is the fault of Obama and his mistakes. pnwmom Dec 2015 #60

I don't blame the president at all....maybe 5 percent. DNC 80 percent, voters 5 percent yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #61

How is a Republican winning a governor's race 1939 Dec 2015 #77

I believe more people voted for Democrats than republicans in the House and Senate pampango Dec 2015 #29

No. Not even close but I had hoped you were right. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #34

Good point. We only outvoted them (+1.5 million) in the House in 2012, not in 2010 and 2014. pampango Dec 2015 #35

Re incorrect info you might want to delete Post #30 for lack of any proof. Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #39

Links, please. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #45

Here you go yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #51

Where's the link to support your 900 seat claim? pnwmom Dec 2015 #57

I am still waiting for proof of Post #30 Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #58

Here ya go: fyi it's from the DNC--ever heard of them? truebluegreen Dec 2015 #73

The ACA was as populist a health plan as he could get through THAT Congress pnwmom Dec 2015 #24

This article fails to realize that padfun Dec 2015 #28

The word corporatist is devoid of meaning, the way people toss it around these days. pnwmom Dec 2015 #46

That old BS. truebluegreen Dec 2015 #75

Damn right. draa Dec 2015 #103

Sounds like another Nader voter redstateblues Dec 2015 #107

Truly an asinine post. truebluegreen Dec 2015 #108

Can't say I disagree with any of it.......In my opinion signing the ACA without a public option.... yourout Dec 2015 #32

I agree GummyBearz Dec 2015 #47

The whole country huh? one_voice Dec 2015 #37

No one will care GummyBearz Dec 2015 #49

He'll never win a 3rd term now!!!! JoePhilly Dec 2015 #50

A joke? What's so funny about it? KamaAina Dec 2015 #52

Other than being ridiculous? JoePhilly Dec 2015 #53

Ridiculous? Naomi Klein begs to differ. KamaAina Dec 2015 #55

Yea, read that ... its a good book ... still ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #68

Given that President Obama's campaign money came primarily guillaumeb Dec 2015 #62

Obama wasted a lot of the first part of his presidency trying to find middle ground and make nice hollowdweller Dec 2015 #64

President Obama declared he was President for all Americans! akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #87

Oh hell. OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #65

This says everything about how the people got screwed by Obama AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #66

That was no accident, either. Quantess Dec 2015 #79

The Oligarchs are geniuses, they put out a fake populist when the time is right for a real populist. AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #67

Ah- the straw men again- They are everywhere redstateblues Dec 2015 #69

Let me guess... He is Black and a Democrat? Egnever Dec 2015 #71

those are true but it's way more than that Skittles Dec 2015 #74

There are far too many bought-and-paid-for pols that would have never let him go after corporations. NCLefty Dec 2015 #80

The two things he did that created the RW "populist" movement were to be elected president twice. CBGLuthier Dec 2015 #82

He could have stopped it all by bringing the Bush Cabal up on war crimes. Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #83

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So the Clintons were "poor" LuvNewcastle Dec 2015 #102

Now is not the time to point fingers..... Hotler Dec 2015 #91

"Lost the country"?? Blue_Tires Dec 2015 #92

FUCK COMMON DREAMS FOR BLAMING OBAMA FOR AMERICA'S FUCKING RACISM!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2015 #94

well said tabasco Dec 2015 #97

Thank you for putting my thoughts into words. nt cry baby Dec 2015 #98

yup,FUCK THEM JI7 Dec 2015 #101

The premise here is that a nation addicted to white supremacy would actually follow a black prez MrScorpio Dec 2015 #109

Why post this obscenity here? Our country is definitely not 'lost'! lunatica Dec 2015 #113

The country is not "lost." On the contrary, it is infinitely better than when Obama took office. Green Forest Dec 2015 #115