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161. Quitting is difficult enough by itself.

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 11:30 AM

Dec 2015

No one who hasn't gone through nicotine withdrawal can even begin to comprehend that. And instead of encouragement, which can work fucking wonders for someone trying to break free of addiction, they get heaps of scorn from self-righteous asshats for having been "stupid" enough to have started smoking in the first place.

It's as cruel as it is transparent. These clowns give precisely zero fucks about smokers, much less their health. Smoking is simply a quality around which the superficial and petty self-radicalize; It's all about appearances and the acquisition of social status. If smoking is illiberal, then coming down hard on smoking makes one appear more liberal. The more liberal one appears, the greater one's status within the liberal in-group becomes.

If we are take any solace from this, it's in that the poster's obnoxious objections to matters that do not concern them in the slightest aren't about you, or me, about Murrah G. They're about that poster's unfulfilled desire to be valued by their peers.

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Cigarette smoking. [View all] Kath1 Dec 2015 OP

very stupid with todays knowledge of the consequences spanone Dec 2015 #1

My 62-year-old sister was diagnosed with COPD and emphysema--given 5-6 years to live. TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #61

All those venues used to be filled wth smoke,so she got a whopping dose of second-hand smoke at work Hekate Dec 2015 #70

Yep, second hand smoke. TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #72

Mormon stewardesses with lung cancer: one of the things that finally got airplanes clean Hekate Dec 2015 #73

My doctors believe my bladder cancer is from second hand smoke.... marble falls Dec 2015 #175

Really, I'd never heard that davidpdx Dec 2015 #234

I've been told that spouses of smokers are more likely to get bladder cancer... marble falls Jan 2016 #252

Long hot showers? 3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #94

hot shower + chlorinated water = toxic chemicals. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #130

Whatever. TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #168

Probably refering to the presence of Radon 222 in the water CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #214

Condolences on your fathers passing. trillion Dec 2015 #143

Thanks so much. nt TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #167

Not cool. SheilaT Dec 2015 #2

Smoking killed my mother when I was 10 yrs old. nt Zorra Dec 2015 #3

I'm sorry to hear that. I can't imagine what losing a parent at that age was like. davidpdx Dec 2015 #110

I'm sorry to hear that. That is a terrible tragedy. trillion Dec 2015 #145

I'm guessing you are pretty young. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #4

Condolences on your mother. trillion Dec 2015 #144

Thanks. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #149

LOL, yes, so cool. Like in the 60s. Lung Cancer is great! nt Logical Dec 2015 #5

My aunt is dying of lung cancer. JunkyardAngel83 Dec 2015 #134

That poor woman. At this point though, it probably doesn't matter further and she may as well trillion Dec 2015 #146

Yup, that's what I figure. JunkyardAngel83 Dec 2015 #170

I am so sorry, my mom had terminal emphysema and smoked to the end. It must be a terrible.... Logical Dec 2015 #155

I'm sorry about your mom. JunkyardAngel83 Dec 2015 #171

Liberal smokers have been hoodwinked by corporations. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #6

Yep, oxygen cylinders that folk need to haul around to breathe when they have COPD Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #7

If you do smoke and you enjoy it, I say have fun with it. Your life. BlueJazz Dec 2015 #8

I agree in principle, kind of. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #19

What you say is true. I don't smoke but I'm sure I do/eat other things that may cause a shorter life BlueJazz Dec 2015 #176

As long as you don't get to collect disability for a lung disease Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #181

I understand what you're saying and a part of me agrees. The problem I have is> BlueJazz Dec 2015 #187

It is not the same though. Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #192

True. If it were up to me, cigarettes would be taxed like my other country. (Australia) BlueJazz Dec 2015 #193

And likewise she'll enjoy the lung cancer or the SheilaT Dec 2015 #204

Read my post numbers 187 and 193. BlueJazz Dec 2015 #212

Make sure you quit by 45 flamingdem Dec 2015 #9

But it is almost impossible to quit once you have started. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #14

I was lucky too loyalsister Dec 2015 #37

I smoked for about a year and noticed my everyday stamina was going down. I quit to.. BlueJazz Dec 2015 #77

I smoked off and on Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #123

My sister stopped singing in clubs by 40, and she still developed COPD and emphysema at age 60. TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #75

I was thinking of a light smoker flamingdem Dec 2015 #98

Cigarettes are so addictive now a days it's hard to find a light smoker. trillion Dec 2015 #148

Wow flamingdem Dec 2015 #169

I have absolutely no doubt that is so. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #180

Pretty addictive, but there are still what are called "chippers" eridani Dec 2015 #191

I read somewhere that your lungs can repair to some degree after you stop davidpdx Jan 2016 #237

I am 76 and just now trying to quit. RebelOne Dec 2015 #107

Good luck to you NastyRiffraff Dec 2015 #109

Consider trying vaping, as recommended to me below. nt SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #182

I havent had a cigarette in almost 2 years notadmblnd Dec 2015 #208

Very good thinking. Jim Beard Dec 2015 #124

There are a lot of young liberal hipster smokers here in Portland. Arugula Latte Dec 2015 #10

I'm always amazed at how many smokers are food conscience ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #11

It's funny how people are selective about things like that. Arugula Latte Dec 2015 #12

My brother in law is diabetic and an alcoholic. Mariana Dec 2015 #21

Yep, don't start. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #15

Smoking disqualifies ones hipness randr Dec 2015 #58

The smell of it really bothers me davidpdx Dec 2015 #112

Sorry about your dad. Arugula Latte Dec 2015 #120

Thanks davidpdx Jan 2016 #238

Smoker's Face -- An Evident Reason To Quit progree Dec 2015 #13

I just shake my head when I hear "reason to quit." SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #17

I quit, and it was hell, took endless tries, but glad I did, and a big reason was progree Dec 2015 #22

I hear you Skittles Dec 2015 #24

I read somewhere that the average number of tries is 6. For me, more like 5X that many, progree Dec 2015 #25

I think I quit on my seventh attempt Skittles Dec 2015 #34

Not allowing myself to smoke in my home or car helped me too. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #40

I had to not drink any alcohol for some time to finally quit for good Skittles Dec 2015 #43

Me too, no bar hopping for me! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #44

hey, same with me!! Skittles Dec 2015 #46

That's what I had to do. I knew that no way I could drink and quit smoking. Plus where I usually brewens Dec 2015 #54

I quit coffee a couple of years Aerows Dec 2015 #89

Seriously, SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #178

Like my sister in law . . . HughBeaumont Dec 2015 #59

Hope she can do it. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #80

Congratulations! SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #78

I quit almost five years ago... Stellar Dec 2015 #90

I feel bad for old people who got hooked at a time when most people smoked. Arugula Latte Dec 2015 #125

Exactly. nt SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #150

It's not that hard. Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #183

Congratulations, but everyone is different. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #184

Which twin is the smoker? Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #203

And the forehead. And the eyes. SheilaT Dec 2015 #211

A smoker's face is much more obvious long SheilaT Dec 2015 #210

Quitting was the best thing I ever did. ronnie624 Dec 2015 #16

Congratulations! SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #18

E-cigs worked for me instantly. Mariana Dec 2015 #26

Good advice Egnever Dec 2015 #33

I wish they had good ones when I was quitting. joshcryer Dec 2015 #38

Most former smokers who use e-cigs Mariana Dec 2015 #65

Absolutely, don't get me wrong. joshcryer Dec 2015 #93

What is your source for that? metalbot Dec 2015 #163

Cigs just don't compare to a good vape. I knew I was quit for good when Skeeter Barnes Dec 2015 #66

Thank you!! SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #81

Bought a kit for hubby today. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #179

If the nicotine concentration is too much for him Mariana Dec 2015 #188

Thanks, SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #194

Hmm. He could take little sips at first. Mariana Dec 2015 #195

30 ml of 18mg SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #196

Thanks. ronnie624 Dec 2015 #62

My buddy at work and his wife both smoke. I would imagine each goes thru at least a pack Waldorf Dec 2015 #20

why would that be cool? Skittles Dec 2015 #23

Why do you find smoking cigarettes "cool"? darkangel218 Dec 2015 #27

I live in a senior facility. roody Dec 2015 #28

Rec'd for the general topic and the responses progree Dec 2015 #29

Why is smoking an issue on here? akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #30

There are people who hate you because you smoke. Mariana Dec 2015 #35

This. It always, really, kinda knocks me on my ass to peruse a thread like this. Such venom. Nt. seabeyond Dec 2015 #79

See my post #96, seabeyond. I don't hate my family members. I grieve for them. Hekate Dec 2015 #97

There is a difference between being empathetic and being hateful. Yes. It is the hateful seabeyond Dec 2015 #99

You are right get the red out Dec 2015 #157

I wish you luck with that, sea. Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #224

Sea, I find this Op unbelievable, now smoking is a problem! What about all akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #133

Yep. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #83

Honestly, that is their choice to hate. But am a smoker and no one on akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #131

Wow. OnionPatch Dec 2015 #197

Please, find one post in which I've expressed hatred Mariana Dec 2015 #198

The post I replied to gives the distinct impression. OnionPatch Dec 2015 #199

I'll tell you who I don't like very much. Mariana Dec 2015 #217

Or some of us actually have watched relatives die of lung cancer. Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #209

If my post wasn't about you Mariana Dec 2015 #218

Fine. I am thankful every damn day that I didn't pick up that particular habit as a teenager Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #219

I did not claim that smokers are oppressed. Mariana Dec 2015 #223

Too true ohheckyeah Dec 2015 #222

People have always liked to tell others how to live. Marrah_G Dec 2015 #42

Bingo! It makes people feel superior to know they are doing what they should be doing and others liberal_at_heart Dec 2015 #102

Yes, I hate smoking. I hate that it killed my wife, and I hate that it will kill many more. n/t Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #132

I am sorry for your loss. liberal_at_heart Dec 2015 #164

Secondhand smoke, though... JunkyardAngel83 Dec 2015 #135

Thank you. nt raccoon Dec 2015 #138

because it STINKS Skittles Dec 2015 #45

I can't smell anything on DU. pintobean Dec 2015 #50

literally and figuratively Skittles Dec 2015 #100

I'm a former smoker, too. pintobean Dec 2015 #103

I'm not militant Skittles Dec 2015 #104

I think it's the ex-smokers who are most rabid about smoking. cwydro Dec 2015 #51

it. will. kill. you. spanone Dec 2015 #52

I don't go into a coughing fit edhopper Dec 2015 #57

You should quit, like overweight people should lose weight. But no one can/should force you. nt Logical Dec 2015 #68

I feel the same about drowning people. Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #71

Sigh... SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #84

Here's two, out of hundreds of good reasons why: Open Secrets: Tobacco Zorra Dec 2015 #88

Come again? GeorgeGist Dec 2015 #95

Smoking is an issue in lots of places, not just here. SheilaT Dec 2015 #213

Cool? I have a friend who just had his first christmas without his wife CBGLuthier Dec 2015 #31

I committed suicide by smoking for far too many years... Contrary1 Dec 2015 #32

my uncle lost his wife 2 years ago at 60. i know my great-uncles were older. 72 + 90+, but my pansypoo53219 Dec 2015 #36

I'm sorry for the responses you're getting. joshcryer Dec 2015 #39

how is smoking liberal? Skittles Dec 2015 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Dec 2015 #48

Conservatives are more likely to smoke than liberals. joshcryer Dec 2015 #49

I think you're missing something. Mariana Dec 2015 #64

I think perhaps SHE is missing something Skittles Dec 2015 #105

She's clearly describing the people, not the smoking Mariana Dec 2015 #115

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight Skittles Dec 2015 #119

Addictions are a disease, and they have nada to do with political views nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #185

Well put Nadin davidpdx Jan 2016 #240

I finally quit by vaping :) Marrah_G Dec 2015 #41

Vaping? Isn't that an admission of a chemical dependency or psychiatric-induced behavior? TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #76

It's called "doing something enjoyable" Marrah_G Dec 2015 #82

I made a post about people who hate smokers Mariana Dec 2015 #114

Not true for many of us. It's because people we know people who died and are dying from it. trillion Dec 2015 #147

Please link to a study that shows Mariana Dec 2015 #156

Well, the important thing is you've still managed to feel superior to smokers... Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #121

Even better, the poster has managed to feel superior Mariana Dec 2015 #158

It's the internet Marrah_G Dec 2015 #159

Quitting is difficult enough by itself. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #161

Good post. Explains a lot of the more self-righteous behavior around here, on various subjects. n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2015 #205

Are you 12? When is smoking cool? Mom died far too young(in her 60s) from lung cancer after... Humanist_Activist Dec 2015 #53

Great. Maybe in a few decades you can share oxygen tanks. Vinca Dec 2015 #55

Cool story. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #122

Lol, how is that very cool? RedCappedBandit Dec 2015 #56

i had a heart attack at 43 from smoking. stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #60

You should try vaping. Not the cigalike things at the gas station though. A good atomizer Skeeter Barnes Dec 2015 #63

And you know SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #86

I use an Aspire Nautalis and local made vape juice Marrah_G Dec 2015 #215

I'm glad you have friends, who happen to be liberal and who happen to smoke steve2470 Dec 2015 #67

Glad you feel reinforced by a peer group, but it's still a deadly addiction. nt Hekate Dec 2015 #69

Someone in my extended family died just this Christmas Eve of smoking-related disease. hunter Dec 2015 #74

I have a friend who has lung cancer right now sorefeet Dec 2015 #85

Is the OP too "cool" edhopper Dec 2015 #87

You said what I was thinking. nt raccoon Dec 2015 #139

There's nothing cool about putting that poison into your body Reter Dec 2015 #91

Did you think liberals are immune to addiction? nt arely staircase Dec 2015 #92

My brother has emphysema. My grandma died of bladder cancer; my grandpa died of kidney cancer... Hekate Dec 2015 #96

Are you sure it is cigarettes? still_one Dec 2015 #101

My godfather developed emphesema from LiberalElite Dec 2015 #106

is this possible flamebait? DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #108

Ding, ding! We have a winner. nt raccoon Dec 2015 #140

Sooooooo glad I quit that filthy habit 13 years ago, shit, I wish I never would have even started. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #111

Important point. SheilaT Jan 2016 #250

Makes me glad I've never been rich enough to smoke. ileus Dec 2015 #113

I said I could not believe it. Kath1 Dec 2015 #116

The post was silly and made no sense. nt Logical Dec 2015 #117

Thank you! Kath1 Dec 2015 #118

Every time you buy a pack of cigs you are supporting the Chamber of Commerce and their GOP lapdogs. LAGC Dec 2015 #126

That is addict talk. Not cool. applegrove Dec 2015 #127

Yup. JunkyardAngel83 Dec 2015 #137

"And I could not believe these very intelligent women were smoking." SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #151

This will happen if you say anything positive about any smokers. Mariana Dec 2015 #160

I thought the original post was pretty innocuous. Kath1 Dec 2015 #172

Maybe you've never known anyone to suffer horribly from its effects...? Nt JudyM Dec 2015 #173

It was pretty innocuous. Mariana Dec 2015 #174

Garrison Keillor has Lake Wobegon, DU has Lake Virtue. IADEMO2004 Dec 2015 #177

I got no problem with cigarette smokers. Joe Shlabotnik Dec 2015 #128

I sat in the doctors office with my wife when she was told she had lung cancer. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #129

I'm sorry for your loss onethatcares Dec 2015 #141

WTH is cool about smoking? JunkyardAngel83 Dec 2015 #136

nothing Skittles Dec 2015 #220

yeah, nothing like COPD. Good luck to them. Cigarettes are more addictive than ever with the trillion Dec 2015 #142

alternatives DustyJoe Dec 2015 #154

Hmmm. I'm not so sure about that. SheilaT Jan 2016 #251

As a former smoker, I have to disagree Android3.14 Dec 2015 #152

that is correct Skittles Dec 2015 #221

switching to thc DustyJoe Dec 2015 #153

Not true. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #162

Are you 16? Jesus Christ! TheManInTheMac Dec 2015 #165

There's nothing cool about smoking. nt LWolf Dec 2015 #166

If you are not a heavy smoker yet nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #186

I used to admire an ex who could truly just enjoy a cig during a night out Skittles Dec 2015 #189

Pretty much every country I've been to smokes a lot more than the US Recursion Dec 2015 #190

Not that that's a good thing, but it does make some of the discussions here seem a bit silly. n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2015 #207

Urgh! It's yucky! SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #226

While I Would Never Consider Smoking In front Of Kids... Corey_Baker08 Dec 2015 #200

I smoked for 25 years. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #201

"I wish I had never started" SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #228

Four years free thanks to Allen Carr's system Babel_17 Dec 2015 #202

Hmmm... SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #231

If you want to stop smoking, the Allen Carr book works (he tells you to smoke while reading it) Babel_17 Dec 2015 #233

Thanks. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #236

All the best for you and your husband! nt Babel_17 Jan 2016 #241

I smoke various things myself, mostly recreationally. nomorenomore08 Dec 2015 #206

I don't smoke romanic Dec 2015 #216

There is nothing cool about smoking, ever, at any time, in any way. kwassa Dec 2015 #225

I think the OP must be very young Warpy Dec 2015 #227

Oh, absolutely, but I can't blame them. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #229

I was a smoker when I was young. kwassa Dec 2015 #230

231 replies, 6211 views? Kath1 Dec 2015 #232

I think it started a good conversation. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #235

Thank you. Kath1 Jan 2016 #239

I hope you don't mind I went off topic with the Allen Carr promotion Babel_17 Jan 2016 #243

No problems. Kath1 Jan 2016 #244

Awwww, you called me by my title! SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #246

Big fan of your work! Babel_17 Jan 2016 #247

I think regardless of the OP's statement, most of the replies in this thread have been incredible davidpdx Jan 2016 #242

And I can appreciate that. Kath1 Jan 2016 #245

It was good to read the successful quitting experiences, too. Mariana Jan 2016 #248

Yes, quitting something whether it be smoking or eating too much is a challenge davidpdx Jan 2016 #249

August 14, 1977. 8:05 am madokie Jan 2016 #253