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1StrongBlackMan

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20. During my recent visit to Cleveland, OH ...
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 05:38 PM
Dec 2015

I spoke with a member of BLM's inner circle (a cousin of a very close friend), several community activists (that I grew up with and worked with when I lived in Cleveland), a couple family members that work in the Cleveland PD, and an Asst. Prosecutor (that I went to Law school with ... she was in my Criminal Procedure study group).

And from those discussions, I came away with a couple conclusions ... specifically, a bad outcome does not constitute a crime.

First, the rookie cop that pulled the trigger was rightfully exonerated ... Yes, he shot a kid; but, the facts suggest, he was placed in a position, by his (veteran) Training Officer, that NO jury would have convicted.

However, just about everyone agreed, the veteran Training Officer should have been charged with Negligent Homicide, for "cowboying it up" and driving too fast and close to the scene, placing the rookie in a position of having to make the split second shoot/no shoot decision, from a distance of less than 6 feet, and no cover.

Now, there were other non-prosecutable problems with how the CPD handled the immediate aftermath of the shooting, i.e., failure to render aid, the treatment of the family (particularly, Rice's juvenile sister).

There, also, was a failure of the community center program ... Tamar and his sister, went to a daycare program. His sister showed up; but, Tamir didn't ... she told the operators that Tamir was outside playing and no one took the time to go get him.

Sadly, we all agreed that a bad outc

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Tamir's death is justified [View all] The Polack MSgt Dec 2015 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #1
Yup! NOLALady Dec 2015 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #9
I'm getting ready to go through academy... LP2K12 Dec 2015 #35
It was in response to a now banned troll's comment that Tamir was in a gang uppityperson Dec 2015 #40
My apologies LP2K12 Dec 2015 #41
K Cuts The Polack MSgt Dec 2015 #5
I'm guessing you've been drinking during your grammar and ESL lessons, yes? LanternWaste Dec 2015 #6
Hey!! Leave the ESL people out of this shit FFS!!! Wtf! darkangel218 Dec 2015 #10
What the hell did I miss? GGJohn Dec 2015 #39
All I read was "Blah Blah Blah I hate n***ers" HughBeaumont Dec 2015 #8
gang? he was twelve years old. you dialed the wrong number. spanone Dec 2015 #12
The cops pulled up NEXT TO HIM, AND SHOT HIM DEAD IN LESS THAN A FREAKING SECOND!!! darkangel218 Dec 2015 #3
^^^THIS^^^ HughBeaumont Dec 2015 #13
Maybe they were yelling it in the car before they got there Bettie Dec 2015 #42
I'm just sick about this. TDale313 Dec 2015 #4
Just heard on the radio. bvf Dec 2015 #7
:'( darkangel218 Dec 2015 #11
"All lives matter." Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #14
^^ +1 darkangel218 Dec 2015 #15
Absolutely. Right. On. Target The Polack MSgt Dec 2015 #17
12 goddamn years old. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #21
It's all so unfuckingbelievable. There were ten things onecaliberal Dec 2015 #16
Remember, they shot him in LESS THAN A SECOND. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #18
I know. What the fuck kind of training is that. onecaliberal Dec 2015 #22
They will file litigation, darkangel218 Dec 2015 #23
I never said money would bring back their child. onecaliberal Dec 2015 #24
And more people will die, if nothing else is being done about it. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #25
BTW, I didn't mean to imply you said that, I was just thinking ahead. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #26
I agree completely. onecaliberal Dec 2015 #30
R u fugging kidding me? This is shit. katsy Dec 2015 #19
During my recent visit to Cleveland, OH ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #20
And yet I dont see them doing any of it if the kid is white, no RACING up to him, no INSTANTLY randys1 Dec 2015 #27
+1 darkangel218 Dec 2015 #28
There is plenty of science to back that one up nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #32
maybe not convicted on murder charges but questionseverything Dec 2015 #29
First, I have the benefit of far more than ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #31
you said questionseverything Dec 2015 #36
Because ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #37
second thinking activists? thanks for the snark questionseverything Dec 2015 #38
Open Carry is for whites only malaise Dec 2015 #33
Sadly, I feel like The Polack MSgt Dec 2015 #34
Tamir was not open carrying. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #43
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