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Nevernose

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31. I'm sincerely not convinced that Islamic extremism was their primary motive
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 07:52 PM
Dec 2015

The guy got into an argument at a work party, felt insulted, went home, got his gun, and killed ONLY his coworkers at the party. No use of the pipe bombs in the apartment, no murdering any one of the HUNDREDS of other unarmed people there, including people that they walked past. Islamic terrorism might, indeed, have been on the agenda, but it looks like it was hardly item number one.

More related to your post: if the FBI is correct and they "were radicalized" in 2012 or before, then ISIS clearly had nothing to do with it, since they were neither an international organization nor known outside Northern Iraq until early 2014/late 2013. The guy was born and raised in Illinois and was about as American as you can get, just like the Colorado Springs religious terrorist from the same week; we should hardly be worried about some revolution in Iraq.

I'm sorry if you feel insulted by pointing out the obvious: terrorists' sole aim is to cause terror. If, then you feel terror, then the terrorists have achieved their aim. Lots of modern countries have endured far longer, more intense periods of terrorism, yet the populace wasn't arming themselves in fear and obsessing on cable news.

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K&R... spanone Dec 2015 #1
Did you notice..... clarice Dec 2015 #2
there are a lot of 24x7x365 debbie downers here snooper2 Dec 2015 #4
We've heard it all before for over 10 years. bvar22 Dec 2015 #22
taking isis down is great news - but they are very far from finished MariaThinks Dec 2015 #7
Your chances of getting hit by lightning are far better that getting attacked by terrorists CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #23
where do you get the odds of lightning versus terrorism? MariaThinks Dec 2015 #39
I looked it up, just like you could have done instead of letting terrorist terrorize you CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #41
I'm sincerely not convinced that Islamic extremism was their primary motive Nevernose Dec 2015 #31
Don't you think that instesting that he planned another terrorist attack.... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #46
I think you're missing some of the point Nevernose Dec 2015 #48
+1 nt clarice Dec 2015 #40
Nice innuendo there. Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #8
I did notice that many so called dems now like war. Doctor_J Dec 2015 #13
If you can't distinguish between "liking war" and... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #24
Already quite a few response with 15 recs and counting. Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #16
How many responses do you think it should get? anigbrowl Dec 2015 #20
The gist I got on the BBC World Service the other night was "getting" it is one thing Peregrine Took Dec 2015 #3
Baghdadi might say, "Tell me about it." BeyondGeography Dec 2015 #5
This is good news and the article states why it is such good news very well. karynnj Dec 2015 #6
Agreed. Obama is doing a great job. Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #9
It's a huge defeat for the Republicans. kentuck Dec 2015 #10
But Wolf Blitzer said we are all gonna die. ISIS is here! Like, you know, when EBOLA killed us all. winstars Dec 2015 #14
It does not fit their talking point about Obama's not having a plan but facts don't matter to their pampango Dec 2015 #36
I'm surprised Marrah_G Dec 2015 #11
Probably with some help from our CIA and special forces? kentuck Dec 2015 #12
True Marrah_G Dec 2015 #17
The surge is working! Doctor_J Dec 2015 #15
only 6 months of war left! MisterP Dec 2015 #18
Your implied comparison of the Bush Jr. and Obama adminstrations is insulting! (n/t) CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #25
so is your belief that the war is, or can be, won. Doctor_J Dec 2015 #30
Terrorism cannot be totally eliminated... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #32
And it wouldn't have happened without the able support of President Proserpina Dec 2015 #19
You are terribly misinformed if you think that the Russians had anything to... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #26
That sounds like great news. Why did we invade Iraq, again? Octafish Dec 2015 #21
This isn't about the mistakes that Republicans in their arrogence.... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #27
some questions you REALLY don't want answered Doctor_J Dec 2015 #28
I wrote the dang article, and I'm not waving the flag. CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #34
Not just a Very Big Deal daleo Dec 2015 #29
Thank you Mr. Vice President CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #33
It actually isn't. They--and we--shouldn't have lost Ramadi to begin with. TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #35
Yes, exactly, trumpet this as a win! CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #37
No, there were Iraqi troops holding out in Ramadi for a while before it fell. TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #38
Quit bitching about the past and instead look to the future CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #42
I don't automatically buy any spin that comes out of TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #43
I wote the article - not the White House, not the State Department, not the Penagon CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #44
You're right, of course, CajunBlazer, this is a big deal. Hortensis Dec 2015 #45
You've evidently got a burr under your saddle that I'm not going to be able to remove CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #47
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