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KentuckyWoman

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3. People are largely just lost
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 04:49 PM
Dec 2015

The vast majority of people I know were union members until their jobs were shipped off to some slave labor country or else the company started "in-sourcing" short term labor from temp services at lower wages.

The unions at national level didn't see fit to organize to stop it. The government that allowed it and even passed laws to make it easier simply told the workers to quit being moochers and lazy bums and spend $1000s in debt (at a nice fat interest rate) to go get a college degree...... and then promptly rewarded companies who shipped college jobs out or imported cheaper labor.

People have just gotten to the point where they don't trust anyone but themselves. The expect the government to fuck them out of whatever small savings or safety net they've been able to cobble together....... home equity, IRAs, SSI, Medicare..... you name it. And when a candidate comes along and says the reason your safety net is in trouble is because of all these moochers over here, and if we cut them all off you will be safe...... well it rings a bell...... or rather a dog whistle.

Now a guy like Bernie comes along and says the reason your safety net is in trouble is because we've handed the "job creators" the nation's wealth on a platter and spent OUR money on weapons to kill kids and grandmas on the other side of the world they are very skeptical. They are convinced what little they have, in the form of a paycheck, will vanish if we dare offend the money people AND the one avenue of semi-security for them or their kids - a career in the military - might vanish as well.

The mantra people are voting against their interests is not accurate from what I've seen. The truth is more like people have become convinced the Democratic talking point that government can help is a lie....... based on what they consider life experience to date. Not that they trust the GOP any better.

The USA and it's predecessor colonies never had an aristocrat/serf social structure... brooklynite Dec 2015 #1
Except for slavery! GeorgeGist Dec 2015 #20
And indentured servitude! - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #21
When there is no effective opposition, then the myths stand entrenched. nt Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #2
The noxious lie that real, effective regulation of the economy... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #4
"I consider this situation to be unrecoverable, at least for the nation as currently constituted." RKP5637 Dec 2015 #8
Wealth and power were even more concentrated in the 1920's. It took FDR to correct that. pampango Dec 2015 #13
People are largely just lost KentuckyWoman Dec 2015 #3
Hmmm. GummyBearz Dec 2015 #5
Extremely well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #6
I have long believed that the workers who vote against their best interests truly believe CTyankee Dec 2015 #9
Exactly! It's the 'carrot and stick' mentality in the US. I just have to work harder and RKP5637 Dec 2015 #15
Plus, the RW feeds the dark racism underlying so much of their message...yes, the CTyankee Dec 2015 #16
These are very troubling times, and some politicians pitting segments of society against RKP5637 Dec 2015 #17
Like Scott Walker said "Divide and conquer." CTyankee Dec 2015 #25
Yes, same tactics as dictators rise to power, same old formula. Quite concerning to RKP5637 Dec 2015 #27
Yes and when they get old and realize they aren't going to be millionaires treestar Dec 2015 #18
It' those damn Liberals, neoliberals, that is safeinOhio Dec 2015 #7
When did Ebeneezer Scrooge win the morality fight? nt TeamPooka Dec 2015 #24
You really think they're flying solo? Baitball Blogger Dec 2015 #10
The racial hatred deliberately stoked by TPTB is a large part of the problem, I think. tblue37 Dec 2015 #11
henever I hear about ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #28
This article explains why extremely well: Basically, it's out of spite. frizzled Dec 2015 #12
It's expressed in other ways, as well loyalsister Dec 2015 #14
Tough to have common goals The2ndWheel Dec 2015 #19
Ahem: A 'dog eat dog economy' is just another way to say 'capitalism' - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #22
Most Americans would rather hope to be rich some day rather than acknowledge they are poor. nt TeamPooka Dec 2015 #23
Temporarily embarrassed millionaires gratuitous Dec 2015 #26
They are the 'future-rich". nt TeamPooka Dec 2015 #29
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